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Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
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Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
If God gave us free will. And someone decides to murder me before I had the chance to accept Jesus in my life. Would that person be taking away my chances to get into heaven? Does that mean you can actually take the decision away from God? Seems like a flaw to me.

A Christian told me that you are given many chances to accept Jesus. But I beg to differ. If you are born in an Islamic country and never heard the gospel. I can make the decision to send you to hell.

And even if I granted the fact they were given chances to accept Jesus in their life, what keeps me from removing all sinners from the earth if I'd make the ultimate sacrifice of accepting eternal torture to make the world a better place?

The whole concept of heaven, hell and God judging you doesn't make sense to me.

If I was aware of a pedofile raping kids and the police didn't take action. Is it a sin for me to kill him and spare children the pain? Or do I just need to pray to God that the pedofile doesn't victimizes anyone else to make sure I get into heaven myself?

If I was a pedofile myself and decided to commit suicide to avoid me giving in to an innate urge to fuck little kids would God consider that as a good deed and allow me into heaven?

If I knew that most Christians were without sin, wouldn't I be doing them a favour to take away any chance for them to commit a sin? That would mean I accept hell to prevent others from going there.

If I killed one person or created a virus that made the entire human race go extinct, is the pain of hell the same? On the latter I wouldn't have a problem with people going to heaven and I would stop any more people from going to hell. If empathy is a virtue, and everyone has had a chance to accept Jesus I wouldn't have a problem stopping people from going to hell for once and for all.

If I were to kill all non-Christans and remove any trace from other religions. Wouldn't I be improving the chance of future babies to discover Jesus?

All these things are possible because I have free will and can decide to accept eternal torture.
Morality derived from religions like Christianity is flawed like hell, it seems more plausible that we as a human race have developed morality because it is beneficial to our species regardless of wether you end up in hell or not.
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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
Quote:If God gave us free will.

Can you give me one reason why we should indulge your brain farts?  Provide evidence that your god exists and then we can talk.
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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
edited -nvm-
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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
(November 1, 2016 at 9:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:If God gave us free will.

Can you give me one reason why we should indulge your brain farts?  Provide evidence that your god exists and then we can talk.

He isn't arguing for a god.
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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
The response could vary. Some may think your time of death is up to god, so you'd better hurry up and accept Jesus today. Some will say you only go to hell for rejecting Jesus. If you were never told about him, you go to purgatory or whatever.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
He begins with "if god gave us free will."

That's an undefined term.
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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
(November 1, 2016 at 9:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote: He begins with "if god gave us free will."

That's an undefined term.

He's arguing against christians, trying to show them plot holes with the belief 'god gave us free will' that virtually all of them hold. Christians apparently like sticking to nonsensical shit.
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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
There are no god judgement's, only man judgement's based on delusion. 

Consider abortion vs spontaneous miscarriage.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
Yeah, I'm just trying to apply my own moral model to fit the narrative of the Christian god, heaven and hell. As long as you think about yourself getting into heaven is most important there is no problem. But if you were to accept eternal torture in hell you could morally justify the worst shit ever.

The problems that Christians have is that they will do anything to avoid hell. They probably never asked themselves these questions.
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RE: Is it possible for someone to take away the judgement from God?
(November 1, 2016 at 10:03 pm)verbral Wrote: Yeah, I'm just trying to apply my own moral model to fit the narrative of the Christian god, heaven and hell. As long as you think about yourself getting into heaven is most important there is no problem. But if you were to accept eternal torture in hell you could morally justify the worst shit ever.

The problems that Christians have is that they will do anything to avoid hell. They probably never asked themselves these questions.

Do anything to avoid hell ?

Really ??


I find the current crop of US Christers to be overwhelmingly suffering from rampant slackerism.  Any Bible verse deemed even a little inconvenient for them to follow is ignored.


When's the last time you heard of a Christian making even a minor fuss about a garden with more than one kind of seed planted in it ?
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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