Your reality is morality based on injustice, which isn't really worth much. "Life is unfair... live with it".
It's rational to you to be unjust and your world is a poor place. Morality worth a bean is only rational should justice be meted. This life is worth so much more assuming God (or something the same as God ...dur) and this is solid, undeniable proof of that.
You're clutching at straws in trying to move to different aspects of morality. I'm not fooled. "Where does morality come from"? Our rationalisation for our actions.
Prove to me how morality and justice aren't connected.
"Moral behaviour, Kant is adamant, is rational behaviour; we have good reason to be moral. This is a fundamental principle of morality: if you ought to do something then you have a reason to do it. It makes no sense to say “I see that I ought to give money to charity, but I have no reason to.” If we ought to do something then that is a reason to do it. What is more, a moral reason is always a stronger reason for doing something than any other reason. If we have a moral reason to do a thing, and another reason not to do it, then rationally speaking we ought to do it. Moral behaviour is always rational."
This isn't rational if you assume no God and no justice, I agree. But that isn't the point here. The point here is how this morality works being based on justice. Yeah to you it's nonsense, purely because you lose before you start.
How does it help someone without a faith in justice in an afterlife? Not at all. You deny how a person's decisions would be altered. I've got to tell you... a person of faith looks at decisions completely differently. It's quite straightforwardly laid out here and I can't see how you can't see that. I know you don't want to, and it proves to be a tangible loss for your world view, but it's a clear fact.
For me, divinely inspired morality actually is rational and quite superior to naturalistic morality. The whole thrust of my faith is for a reason which is superior to the reasoning without it. That's why I do it. It makes sense. In the real world, here, now, my actual moral system is the best it can be.
It's rational to you to be unjust and your world is a poor place. Morality worth a bean is only rational should justice be meted. This life is worth so much more assuming God (or something the same as God ...dur) and this is solid, undeniable proof of that.
You're clutching at straws in trying to move to different aspects of morality. I'm not fooled. "Where does morality come from"? Our rationalisation for our actions.
Prove to me how morality and justice aren't connected.
"Moral behaviour, Kant is adamant, is rational behaviour; we have good reason to be moral. This is a fundamental principle of morality: if you ought to do something then you have a reason to do it. It makes no sense to say “I see that I ought to give money to charity, but I have no reason to.” If we ought to do something then that is a reason to do it. What is more, a moral reason is always a stronger reason for doing something than any other reason. If we have a moral reason to do a thing, and another reason not to do it, then rationally speaking we ought to do it. Moral behaviour is always rational."
This isn't rational if you assume no God and no justice, I agree. But that isn't the point here. The point here is how this morality works being based on justice. Yeah to you it's nonsense, purely because you lose before you start.
How does it help someone without a faith in justice in an afterlife? Not at all. You deny how a person's decisions would be altered. I've got to tell you... a person of faith looks at decisions completely differently. It's quite straightforwardly laid out here and I can't see how you can't see that. I know you don't want to, and it proves to be a tangible loss for your world view, but it's a clear fact.
For me, divinely inspired morality actually is rational and quite superior to naturalistic morality. The whole thrust of my faith is for a reason which is superior to the reasoning without it. That's why I do it. It makes sense. In the real world, here, now, my actual moral system is the best it can be.
