RE: Need bible translation
June 28, 2015 at 12:58 am
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2015 at 1:15 am by brewer.)
(June 27, 2015 at 10:16 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: 15 “If your brother or sister[b] sins,[c] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’[d] 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.Again, dealing with a biblical idiot. Define bind and loose.
18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.
19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
(June 27, 2015 at 10:20 pm)professor Wrote: "Whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven....."
This is to those walking in obedience and faith to the Lord Jesus Christ- it is permission to make declarations and expect them to come to pass.
Declarations on earth/church will also be declarations in heaven?
(June 27, 2015 at 10:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Just as I expected from you. Thanks very little.Quote:whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
I think it is talking about diarrhea.
(June 27, 2015 at 11:42 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: It says that if you truly know that someone is wrong in there actions to bring it to there attention in a humble personal manner. If they refuse to change let them act out in front of others and confront them about it together. If that does not work bring it up in the church which is supposed to be unbiased and know right from wrong. If this still doesn't work you have the right to run them off or kill them. Not sure which would have to clarify the offence of tax collector. 18 is simply saying that if you are with the truly right your judgments will be upheld in the afterlife. 19 implies that the more people that believe the greater the effect will be.No help at all. Translate not justify. How can a 25 word (approximate) statement in Matthew turn into what you replied. Refuse to change, act out, run off or kill, tax collector? OK, now to 18, truly right in jugdement on earth or in the church will be held truly right in heaven?
Hope that helped.
(June 27, 2015 at 10:20 pm)professor Wrote: "Whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven....."So....... declarations on earth or in the church will be held in heaven? Come to pass where, earth, heaven, both?
This is to those walking in obedience and faith to the Lord Jesus Christ- it is permission to make declarations and expect them to come to pass.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.