(June 29, 2015 at 5:00 pm)Anima Wrote: Moral argument may be made in accordance with the argument to teleological ends (biology). It may readily be shown the purpose of biological life is the procreation of the species as more creatures live only long enough to procreate than live beyond mere procreative maturity. While arguments to same sex being natural are akin to arguing the physical laws of existence allow it so it is the intentional outcome of those laws. In which case it may readily be argued the physical/natural laws allow for the killing of weak things, thus the intentional outcome of those laws is that weak things be killed. Thus we are better fitted to arguing according to teleology rather than physical limitation when discussing "natural".
Procreation isn't the only purpose of sex.
Quote:Societal argument may be readily made in the wasting of limited resources, ethical associations, and procreation of the species (biology). Under such an argument society does not exist without the continuation of the species, said species/societies consume resources which are limited and not indefinite, in which case resources should be favorably allocated to those who are most likely to contribute to the continuation of society rather than those who are least likely. As recognized society is a means of securing resources and sustenance. Now we may argue the desire to separate the useful from the useless; which is to say to curtail the association of one with the other to increase the survival of the one. Under this argument it is by compassion those who do not contribute are not summarily eliminated (but if we are to argue purely in social terms there is no good reason for not eliminating those who do not contribute or whom will not readily contribute, aka children).
Overpopulation.
Everything you have is that gays can't procreate. What about infertile straight couples? What about straight couples who don't want children? Is that immoral too? What about orphans, waiting for adoption? Is it moral to keep making more children?
Is there a reason why same sex relationships are immoral? Not talking about religion, kids, or the slippery slope. What's so objectionable about two guys or two gals fucking? What seems to be the problem?