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[SteelCurtain]

I appreciate the confirmation on your wealth of intellectual dishonesty. Well done.

Intellectually dishonest?

Yep.

Except your sky daddy is only love if you understand him is just the right way. And any variation in that understanding is considered heresy which apparently in a whirlwind of love, a person should be drowned mafia style.

You love to twist everything to bring it back around to how Christianity is evil, don't you?

How have I twisted anything? You are the one that posted the direct quote from the Bible that people who lead others from God should have a millstone tied around their neck and drowned. If that isn't evil, I don't know what is.

Tone down the preaching, Randy. Nobody wants to hear it. If that's all you have, then you've exhausted your attempts at reasoned argument and have settled on pulpit pot shots. Your god is only love about 10% of the time. For every one of those verses about love, I could pop off 10 which describe the hate mongering, fear mongering jackass that is described by your Bible.  

Of course you could, Mike. Of course you could. And that's what the Bible is all about, right? That's the ENTIRE point of the whole Bible...the whole 3,000+ years of Judeo-Christian history is to show how God is an evil being.

No where did I say that this is what the Bible is all about. My point is that I'll take it all into account. I won't excuse or ignore the terrible shit attributed to your God, and the whole of the Bible colors my conclusion that yes, your god is described as an evil being.

But it doesn't exist, so I really, really don't care past responding to your intellectual dishonesty, and making sure to illuminate it so the rest of the forum and the lurkers here can see it in it's full glory.

I won't waste my time or breath though, because it doesn't exist. It is a story you tell yourself to feel more secure about your place in the cosmos. If you need that, fine. But I don't. I am happy, connected, and secure. I enjoy fulfilling relationships. I practice empathy and connect with others. I seek to rectify my ideas and align them most closely with what can be shown to be, not what a book written by bronze age goat herders and the medieval scribes who modified it to fit their whims.

Oh, and I just feel the warmth and empathy oozing from your posts since the day I joined the forum. Being God-free has been so liberating for you!

You exhausted the warmth really quick. I still have empathy for you, Randy. Your posts actually make me really sad. Your worldview is limited to this tiny book. You have memorized all these catechisms and made these long Word documents so you can be the world's best apologist. You corner yourself with these indefensible positions and you sidestep and hope everyone forgets. But you have been abhorrent from step one here, refused to play by our rules, and blamed it on everyone else. So, I'll reserve my warmth for someone who has earned it.

And I have never believed in a god. I am free, so I guess I am technically liberated.

I bet you do, Randy. You know what the ultimate irony is? You caterwauling about how people who use fear to subjugate others is not what your religion is all about, and in the very same post you do threaten me with your god's wrath for leading people astray, alongside your "understanding" about people who believe differently being killed for doing so. But it's not about fear at all, is it?

It's a two-edged sword, Mike. You can stare at the judgment of God and shake your fist at Him for His just punishments (good luck with that) or you can stare at His cross and thank Him for dying so you don't have to.

I stare at no such thing, Randy. There is no god for judgement, and this is the last time I'll ask you to stop preaching instead of responding to the actual post.

Why don't you try that last one again? The irony was apparently lost on you, because you did it again. While simultaneously sticking to this idea that your religion is not predicated on fear and threats, you continue to bely that point with every post, threatening me with God's judgement.