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[split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality
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RE: [split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality
I changed tack here, I accept all moral standards are more or less the same. All your references to me saying the opposite to that are ill founded.

What changes are the motivations to act morally given the justification from PJ. Our rapist has a lot less motivation just fearing the law rather than fearing the law and PJ. A rational atheist rapist would laugh in the face of PJ. A rational believer rapist would consider PJ. You say that should have no substantial effect, I beg to differ.

Belief changes people, but not irreversibly. You have a vested interest in denying that, so I don't expect you to accept it. Logic dictates that it's true however.

Believers come from all walks of life. Rapists, murderers, whores... all can be believers. I've attended a few very big camps where everyone is a believer. It's a whole different atmosphere to the places at other times. Where people aim to believe that selfishness is bad, produces a different atmosphere to one where people have the idea that selfishness is king. I have no statistics to prove that, because I haven't heard of any tests being done. I kinda makes more than sense so I tend to give assent to the obvious, taking into account all influences.

I think that if you desire females, the potential is there to abuse the situation. The desire is there but it isn't corrupted by the need for frustration or power. We're all capable of that.

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[split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality - by fr0d0 - October 1, 2010 at 11:10 pm
RE: [split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality - by theVOID - October 6, 2010 at 12:56 am
RE: [split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality - by fr0d0 - October 6, 2010 at 3:12 am
RE: [split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality - by theVOID - October 6, 2010 at 5:11 pm
RE: [split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality - by fr0d0 - October 7, 2010 at 4:06 am
RE: [split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality - by theVOID - October 7, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: [split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality - by fr0d0 - October 8, 2010 at 6:23 am
RE: [split] Theistic VS Naturalistic morality - by theVOID - October 10, 2010 at 8:07 pm
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by fr0d0 - October 1, 2010 at 11:31 pm
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by Violet - October 2, 2010 at 12:13 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by fr0d0 - October 2, 2010 at 12:21 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by theVOID - October 2, 2010 at 12:21 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by fr0d0 - October 2, 2010 at 12:32 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by theVOID - October 2, 2010 at 1:20 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by Edwardo Piet - October 2, 2010 at 5:42 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by theVOID - October 2, 2010 at 6:21 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by Edwardo Piet - October 2, 2010 at 6:25 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by theVOID - October 2, 2010 at 6:43 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by Edwardo Piet - October 2, 2010 at 6:50 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by The Omnissiunt One - October 2, 2010 at 11:13 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by fr0d0 - October 2, 2010 at 1:46 pm
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by theVOID - October 2, 2010 at 8:49 pm
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by fr0d0 - October 3, 2010 at 5:10 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by Edwardo Piet - October 3, 2010 at 1:54 pm
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by theVOID - October 4, 2010 at 2:26 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by fr0d0 - October 4, 2010 at 4:01 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by theVOID - October 4, 2010 at 8:31 pm
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by fr0d0 - October 5, 2010 at 5:15 am
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by theVOID - October 5, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheist/Philosopher here. - by fr0d0 - October 5, 2010 at 8:02 pm

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