RE: Libertarian is not left on social issues
July 1, 2015 at 9:52 pm
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2015 at 9:57 pm by Dystopia.)
People seem to have wrong ideas on free speech - One of them is that it is an absolute principle, as if any principle was absolute at all - The other is when people think banning speech they don't agree with is a good idea and create double standards. Free speech is a right like any other, and therefore it is restricted when necessary. Free speech doesn't mean I need to allow you into my house to listen your opinion, or even listen to you at all. Free speech does not mean freedom from consequences of what you say. Free speech does not mean any entity needs to allow you to give public lectures on what you think about subjects. Free speech does not mean private entities can't restrict speech as they please according to their longterm goals. And lastly, free speech doesn't encompass the right to defamation and direct incitement to riot, violence and hatred, as it disturbs public order.
On marriage - This is when I start thinking libertarians don't understand the purpose of the Law. The law is founded upon authority, which belongs to the strongest entity we have known in history - The State. If you can marry, that means there is a Law passed by the state or redefined by courts of law allowing you to get married. It isn't as simple as signing the papers - There are rules, restrictions, specific procedures and behaviours you must have - This depends on jurisdiction. Marriage isn't just a contract, it is one that requires personal commitment to someone else. When you marry, you are indirectly being recognized by the State as married and you are registered as such in your ID card (this depends on the country) because there are a shitload of legal issues like inheritances, matrimonial regimes and so on that are regulated by law and provide benefits and disadvantages for parties.
Even if you merely exercise private activities, any private activity only happens because the State passed a law saying you can do it. You can't do something that goes against the Law. To argue that people should be able to "create" marriage only by themselves without something defining what it is means basically that anything can be called a marriage and thus we're better off just abolishing the institution altogether.
Captain, you've described yourself as slightly conservative but I think this position (assuming you support it) is strongly against conservatism as it creates the idea that your actions exist isolated and don't impact anyone else.
On marriage - This is when I start thinking libertarians don't understand the purpose of the Law. The law is founded upon authority, which belongs to the strongest entity we have known in history - The State. If you can marry, that means there is a Law passed by the state or redefined by courts of law allowing you to get married. It isn't as simple as signing the papers - There are rules, restrictions, specific procedures and behaviours you must have - This depends on jurisdiction. Marriage isn't just a contract, it is one that requires personal commitment to someone else. When you marry, you are indirectly being recognized by the State as married and you are registered as such in your ID card (this depends on the country) because there are a shitload of legal issues like inheritances, matrimonial regimes and so on that are regulated by law and provide benefits and disadvantages for parties.
Even if you merely exercise private activities, any private activity only happens because the State passed a law saying you can do it. You can't do something that goes against the Law. To argue that people should be able to "create" marriage only by themselves without something defining what it is means basically that anything can be called a marriage and thus we're better off just abolishing the institution altogether.
Quote:Evidence of liberals bastardizing the concept of free speech is most evident in the proliferation of 'free speech zones' on college campuses. This after adopting the inane widespread practice of inserting 'trigger warnings' in syllabi announcing the potential for the slightest reason to take offense.I mostly agree with the concept of warnings a priori because there's many people traumatized by past events and generally we, as a society, can predict some descriptions and image that can trigger someone, like warfare, rape, murder, violence, bullying, alcoholism (explicit), etc. It's for the same reason movies, videogames and TV series come with a warning when there's violence.
Captain, you've described yourself as slightly conservative but I think this position (assuming you support it) is strongly against conservatism as it creates the idea that your actions exist isolated and don't impact anyone else.
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