Abortion -cpr on the fetus?

[Ravenshire]

@Cato. You're graph showed a non zero denominator in survival at <20 weeks, therefor there is a possibly of survival. No one denies the rate of survival increases with gestation and size, that's not the point.

Well, I'm not CATO, but you did tell me to get some different arguments, after I already had, then proceeded to ignore them. Who the fuck are you to decide for mother what she will or will not have to deal with for the rest of her life. Are you going to provide financial assistance to those who are too damned poor to feed another mouth? Will you provide protection from the abusive spouse/father. How about medical assistance for those genetic disorder that do nothing but cause suffering and end the child's life very early.

The point is that there is a non-zero chance of survival (the medical definition of futility is that there is no reasonable of survival ) patient with cardiogenic shock and multi system organ failure have a very low chance of survival and we do talk with the patient about withdrawal of care, but we do not simply turn it off or not bother to try because they are likely to die

False analogy.