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Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus?
(July 3, 2015 at 10:40 pm)answer-is-42 Wrote: @Cato. Thanks at least for seeming to try to clarify. I am intentionally "shrinking my arguement" to this one point. Im not nor have i I tried to on this thread argue either way about the broad term of abortion. I have not addressed anything about a fetus that is completely not viable outside the womb. I have chosen to only ask this one specific question. I have my views and am always interested in getting other people's feedback to either refine, change, or confirm my views. Unfortunately this discussion devolves into a general abortion arguement that i have repeatedly stated I am not making.  
It is sad to see a bunch on atheists react to an arguement because they don't like the conclusions rahter then addressing the points. It's not unlike a hard theist who resorts to name calling when they can't defend their religion any better.
Anyway if you have anything on point I'm interested to listen. Else this is all unfortunately just noise.
I think the problem is how you "shrink the argument". What you've communicated is a desire to take a very complex issue and create a litmus test based on gestation length which in turn hinges on what is medically possible given a few instances and not what is probable or to be expected. The bothersome part, for me, about this is the fact that you don't even consider the 'why'.

Less than 2% of all abortions happen after 21 weeks (if memory serves I think the actual figure is 1.4%). I don't have the definitive statistics to prove this, but such a low percentage suggests to me that these abortions aren't done for the sake of birth control or some other flippant irresponsible reason. We're talking about women that have carried a child for five months and are in most cases looking forward to being a mother. At 2% I envision mothers making an agonizing decision because of what is learned about the health of their baby or sadly a risk to their own health.

That said, let the mothers choose. After five months of pregnancy, there are very few that terminate 'just because'.
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Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by LastPoet - July 3, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Longhorn - July 3, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 5:20 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Longhorn - July 3, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Longhorn - July 3, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by AFTT47 - July 3, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Longhorn - July 3, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 6:10 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 6:17 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 6:24 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by bennyboy - July 3, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by brewer - July 3, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 3, 2015 at 7:03 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Napoléon - July 3, 2015 at 6:40 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 6:49 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 6:50 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by brewer - July 3, 2015 at 7:16 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 7:34 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 3, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 6:46 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 6:52 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 3, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 3, 2015 at 7:06 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by brewer - July 3, 2015 at 7:06 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by brewer - July 3, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by rexbeccarox - July 3, 2015 at 8:08 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by rexbeccarox - July 3, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by bennyboy - July 3, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by bennyboy - July 3, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 8:55 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by rexbeccarox - July 3, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 9:03 pm
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RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Dystopia - July 3, 2015 at 9:08 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 9:19 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by rexbeccarox - July 3, 2015 at 9:22 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 9:24 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Regina - July 3, 2015 at 9:23 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 9:25 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by brewer - July 3, 2015 at 9:25 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 9:30 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Regina - July 3, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 10:29 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 3, 2015 at 10:32 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 11:25 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by rexbeccarox - July 3, 2015 at 11:01 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 4, 2015 at 12:47 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 11:03 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 11:19 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 3, 2015 at 11:21 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 4, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 11:25 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 11:27 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 11:34 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 3, 2015 at 11:57 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Longhorn - July 4, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 11:34 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by rexbeccarox - July 3, 2015 at 11:37 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 11:36 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 11:39 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by rexbeccarox - July 3, 2015 at 11:44 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 11:49 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 3, 2015 at 11:48 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 3, 2015 at 11:50 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by rexbeccarox - July 3, 2015 at 11:52 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 3, 2015 at 11:53 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by bennyboy - July 4, 2015 at 3:23 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Pyrrho - July 4, 2015 at 12:29 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 4, 2015 at 12:58 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2015 at 2:43 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 4, 2015 at 8:22 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 4, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by bennyboy - July 4, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Pyrrho - July 4, 2015 at 5:51 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by brewer - July 4, 2015 at 8:26 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 4, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by brewer - July 4, 2015 at 10:08 am
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 4, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 4, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 4, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 4, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Thumpalumpacus - July 4, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 4, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 4, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Minimalist - July 4, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 4, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 4, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by bennyboy - July 4, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Cato - July 4, 2015 at 5:58 pm
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RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by popsthebuilder - July 4, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by answer-is-42 - July 4, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: Abortion -cpr on the fetus? - by Pyrrho - July 4, 2015 at 11:09 pm
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