(July 5, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:(July 5, 2015 at 12:00 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, Bullshit backatcha! Yes it does violate their religious freedom. Unlike serving up some coffee and a doughnut or a cream puff, baking a wedding cake for those two lesbians and being forced to recognize gay marriage was an infringement on the Baker's religious convictions.
What about the other way around? Can someone use their Civil Rights to violate the Civil Rights of others, namely, Freedom Of Religion?
Only if the interracial couple were gay.
Its not a violation of the business owners civil rights because when you open a business to serve the public you are subject to anti-discrimination laws. Their personal stance on gay marriage is irrelevant when it comes to their business and the laws that govern that business.
Why only if the interracial couple was gay? There are plenty of Religious views that promote racial segregation, why would you be against a baker discriminating against a straight interracial couple and not a gay interracial couple?
Bottom line is bigots don't get to hide behind their religions to discriminate against groups of people.
Bigot is a word that's used too loosely to attack people who doesn't agree with a particular stance of another person. It's not bigotry to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, especially if gay marriages are against a person's religious convictions. I know of Christians who would refuse to recognize a straight marriage if the couple had been divorced from previous marriages. That doesn't they're bigoted against divorcees, it means that they have religious objections to divorce.
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