(October 8, 2010 at 9:53 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: We do what we choose to do because we can't do anything else. Ultimately we can't choose what choices we will choose, that's the thing.
As for "self control" - how can anything truly control itself, and how could we be an exception?
A car is driving down a road with a man in the drivers seat, so we ask "What is driving the car?" obviously, the man driving it. But the same question can just be asked towards to man "What is driving the man?". To say that we "control ourselves" is just as much of a cop-out as saying "The car controls itself" without finding out what is really driving it.
"Self-control" as in self-discipline, specifically strength of will, willpower, is a different meaning of self-control. To act as if it's the same meaning is to make a fallacy of equivocation.
Sorry EVF, but this logic is flawed.