Welcome Joko. I can relate to the family discussions. Many times when there are family get-togethers, it turns into a slam gays, Obama, and liberals fest. It's a bunch of bullshit, but what can you expect from people who can't think for themselves? The world would be much better without religion because of that. It's basically a bunch of brainwashing, seasoned with guilt and the fear of hell, and you got yourself braindead zombies walking the earth, defending an evil book..Anyways.. Welcome

Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-