(July 9, 2015 at 9:35 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(July 9, 2015 at 9:24 pm)Luckie Wrote: Hi there, I was just perusing and saw this post. I'd be interested in knowing what you consider to be proof that the New Testament is historically accurate? Elementary question, I know. But if it's the entire basis of your belief, then it's quite crucial.
Welcome to AF by the way!
Thanks!
I have two threads which cover this material:
1. The Historical Reliability of the New Testament
2. Proving the Resurrection by the Minimal Facts Approach
Thread 1 was my first real attempt at engaging atheists. The thread got bogged down in side issues, and I learned that I would have to take a different approach to interacting with the gang here.
Thread 2 is based upon the idea that it is NOT necessary to rely upon the NT in order to conclude that the resurrection is the most plausible explanation of the facts that are generally accepted by ALL scholars - skeptics and theists alike.
And btw, I have not claimed that the reliability of the NT is the "entire basis" for my faith. But, you have plans...so proceed.
Plans? Whose got plans? Between me and you, I'd say you're the one with the plans! I'm legitimately interested in you answering my question, but it seems you have homework for me to do before you'll even bother answering me. Honestly I'm a mod on vacation for medical reasons; I don't have it in me to go through two very long threads of banter. I'm asking you to simply place your cards on the table for me please and thank you. For instance if I asked you for historical proof of Jesus' existance, it should be easy peasy for you to give me a link to prove what you're saying is true. References and resources that back up your claim. I'd like to see them, truly I would. Can you just give me that, here in this thread? I'm only following a few threads at the moment because that's all I can keep up with. Historical proof of New Testament validity is one of my main interest topics. I'm not close minded--show me what you've got.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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