(July 9, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Godschild Wrote:Adding the other part of that passage does not change the meaning of the part I quoted. And my original asswerion that you are wrong abot us having a choice to accept Jesus still stands.(July 9, 2015 at 6:13 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: 1 Corinthians 12:3
No one can say "Jesus is Lord" except in the Holy Spirit.
So, no GC, we don't have freewill to do that according to Paul. But as I told Drich, Jesus has something else to say.
I just proved Paul wrong by saying "Jesus is Lord." If I can only do that in the Holy Spirit then how can I, in the same breath, say "Fuck Jesus?"
I see you're using the ignorance of your fellow atheist to promote yourself again, have you no shame. Thought you could fool me too, I assume. Let's show everyone what you left out.
1 Corinthians 12:2-3 You know when you were pagans, you were led astray to the dumb idols, however you were led. 3) Therefore I make it know to you, that no one speaking by the Spirit of God say, "Jesus is accursed;" and no one can say , "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.
First of all in the simplest explanation, of the above verses, Paul was saying no one can confess Jesus as Savior unless that person has the knowledge from the Holy Spirit, (Jesus told Peter the same thing when he said to Jesus, "You are the Son of God"). Being that you do not believe Jesus is the Son of God you haven't done anything but utter a few words that have no meaning to you. Since you didn't do the former as scriptures says, you most certainly did the latter as scripture says. By the words from Paul through the Holy Spirit you have been a deceiver to your fellow atheist and a liar to yourself, all known to God your judge.
GC
Mark 4: 110-13 Wrote:10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12 That seeing they may see , and not perceive ; and hearing they may hear , and not understand ; lest at any time they should be converted , and their sins should be forgiven them. 13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
I have the freewill to fornicate or abstain from it. I am no slave, but according to this passage there are some whom Jesus did not want to be saved. If anybody goes to hell, this passage says it's because Jesus did not want them to be forgiven. That's cool with me, If a god who doesn't exist wants to hide himself from me then well.
You and Drich say we never had freewill. Ohther Christians say God allowed sin because he eanted us to have freewill. And you all read the same Bible and accuse each other of misinterpreting it. I have no use for a book that's so open to interpretation that no one can agree about what even the slightest thing means.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.