Will Humans Have Freewill in Heaven?

[Rhondazvous]

I see you're using the ignorance of your fellow atheist to promote yourself again, have you no shame. Thought you could fool me too, I assume. Let's show everyone what you left out.
1 Corinthians 12:2-3 You know when you were pagans, you were led astray to the dumb idols, however you were led. 3) Therefore I make it know to you, that no one speaking by the Spirit of God say, "Jesus is accursed;" and no one can say , "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

First of all in the simplest explanation, of the above verses, Paul was saying no one can confess Jesus as Savior unless that person has the knowledge from the Holy Spirit, (Jesus told Peter the same thing when he said to Jesus, "You are the Son of God"). Being that you do not believe Jesus is the Son of God you haven't done anything but utter a few words that have no meaning to you. Since you didn't do the former as scriptures says, you most certainly did the latter as scripture says. By the words from Paul through the Holy Spirit you have been a deceiver to your fellow atheist and a liar to yourself, all known to God your judge.

GC

Adding the other part of that passage does not change the  meaning of the part I quoted. And my original asswerion that you are wrong abot us having a choice to  accept Jesus still stands.

You left out the rest of the verse because it would prove you wrong and it does any sensible person can set it does. 
Now I guess I'll have to explain this further, though I shouldn't have to since you went to a Bible school. The verses is saying you can't call Jesus Lord and mean it unless you have accepted Him as your savior and lord, which you have not, stated by your own words. You can't even come to know Christ without the Holy Spirit revealing to you who He is, so you might utter in meaningless words Jesus is Lord, what you can't do as the scripture says is to state with convection Jesus is Lord, because He isn't your Lord. You'r trying to play word games that a twelve year old could see through.

10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.   11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:   12 That seeing they may see , and not perceive ; and hearing they may hear , and not understand ; lest at any time they should be converted , and their sins should be forgiven them.   13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?

I have the freewill to fornicate or abstain from it. I am no slave, but according to this passage there are some whom Jesus did not want to be saved. If anybody goes to hell, this passage says it's because Jesus did not want them to be forgiven. That's cool with me, If a god who doesn't exist wants to hide himself from me then well.

When did I say you were a slave, I've always said you have choice, you can't be a slave to God because you do not believe in Him. He can and may use you to advance His absolute will or even to help teach Christians, I've seen it happen here a number of times, for me it was very recent, not through you but another atheist. Jesus isn't hiding from you, He's been waiting on you! As for the scriptures you used in Mark you've not understood it correctly, Jesus said that God desires all to come into salvation and Jesus also being God could not desire any to go to hell, including you.

You and Drich say we never had freewill. Ohther Christians say God allowed sin  because he eanted us to have freewill.  And you all read the same Bible and accuse each other of misinterpreting it. I have no use for a book that's so open to interpretation that no one can agree about what even the slightest thing means.

That's correct we do and it's true, as I said before in this conversation if you had freewill you could override God's absolute will and that just not going to happen. God gave free choice before sin entered this world, it wasn't choice that brought sin into this world it was using choice to disobey God that brought sin into this world. Funny thing, you say you have no use for the Bible, yet you waste your life arguing against it, to me that's not very logical.Let's talk about misinterpreting scriptures, you do it purposely to gain popularity with other atheist, that's just plain deceitful and not a good way to treat those you refer to as friends. Most Christians make an honest attempt at finding the truth in the Bible and non of us have gotten it completely right. I see the same things in the sciences, some of the past battles have cost people their jobs and credibility, yes arguing over the very same thing, seeing it differently with the same information.

GC

You are so wrong. No where have I said that I never confessed Jesus as savior. For 25 wasted years I did with absolute misguided conviction believe. You have not said anything here that I have not once said.

Please don't waste time splitting hairs between freewill and choice. But since you insist on making a difference, the exact opposite of what you say is actually true. I cannot choose to fly like a bird. But I'm still free to have the will that to do it.


Until now you seemed to be in agreement with Drich. It's no wonder to me that two people reading the same Bible and claiming to be led by the same holy spirit can't agree with each other.

Decided to leave Mark 4:10-13 alone, did you?

Use me for his absolute will? Like he used Dylan Roof for his absolute will in Charleston. No thank you. Since I have a choice, I choose not to be used by that blood-thirsty reprobate in the sky.