Will Humans Have Freewill in Heaven?

[Godscreated]

You left out the rest of the verse because it would prove you wrong and it does any sensible person can set it does. 
Now I guess I'll have to explain this further, though I shouldn't have to since you went to a Bible school. The verses is saying you can't call Jesus Lord and mean it unless you have accepted Him as your savior and lord, which you have not, stated by your own words. You can't even come to know Christ without the Holy Spirit revealing to you who He is, so you might utter in meaningless words Jesus is Lord, what you can't do as the scripture says is to state with convection Jesus is Lord, because He isn't your Lord. You'r trying to play word games that a twelve year old could see through.



When did I say you were a slave, I've always said you have choice, you can't be a slave to God because you do not believe in Him. He can and may use you to advance His absolute will or even to help teach Christians, I've seen it happen here a number of times, for me it was very recent, not through you but another atheist. Jesus isn't hiding from you, He's been waiting on you! As for the scriptures you used in Mark you've not understood it correctly, Jesus said that God desires all to come into salvation and Jesus also being God could not desire any to go to hell, including you.



That's correct we do and it's true, as I said before in this conversation if you had freewill you could override God's absolute will and that just not going to happen. God gave free choice before sin entered this world, it wasn't choice that brought sin into this world it was using choice to disobey God that brought sin into this world. Funny thing, you say you have no use for the Bible, yet you waste your life arguing against it, to me that's not very logical.Let's talk about misinterpreting scriptures, you do it purposely to gain popularity with other atheist, that's just plain deceitful and not a good way to treat those you refer to as friends. Most Christians make an honest attempt at finding the truth in the Bible and non of us have gotten it completely right. I see the same things in the sciences, some of the past battles have cost people their jobs and credibility, yes arguing over the very same thing, seeing it differently with the same information.

GC

You are so wrong. No where have I said that I never confessed Jesus as savior. For 25 wasted years I did with absolute misguided conviction believe. You have not said anything here that I have not once said.

We're talking about now not when you thought you were a Christian, 25 years you were playing a game and this is why I believe what I do about you, not trying to put you down here this is what I honestly believe. If you had confessed Jesus as your savior and Lord all those years ago He would have proved to you He was real. If after that you decided you didn't like what you had found, I could believe that and slightly understand what you did. I could even understand your anger at God. You however threw away God as one would trash, claiming He doesn't exist, so how is it you can say what you do about the God you claim doesn't exist, actually why do you say the things you do about something that doesn't exist. That would be like me getting mad at the pink unicorn and throwing a temper tantrum at the very thing I do not believe exists, for me it would be a stupid and foolish thing to do, even worse it would be a total waste of my time. I just can't believe you ever had a personal relationship with God, for if you had you could not in all honesty ever deny His existence, be mad at Him for some reason yes, but to deny something you had a personal relationship with would be crazy.

 Please don't waste time splitting hairs between freewill and choice. But since you insist on making a difference, the exact opposite of what you say is actually true. I cannot choose to fly like a bird. But I'm still free to have the will that to do it.

You are describing choice, not freewill. You have the choice to jump off a bridge and kill yourself, killing one self is not usually considered a willful act as it goes against our nature of self preservation. As you have implied in making this thread that the freewill of this thread would have to be God given, you are speaking of heaven, correct. You can choose to go against God's will and in that act you have freedom to do so, you however haven't changed God's will only chose against it. What you are not free to do is change God's ultimate will, He want allow that to happen. You can choose against your own will, like in the above example and choose to jump, jumping doesn't change your will, you just chose against it.   You can willfully break the law and, you could say it was your will to do so, but breaking the law comes with punishment, you were not free to break the law or there wouldn't be a punishment for breaking the law. So it wasn't freewill it was choice to break the law.

Until now you seemed to be in agreement with Drich. It's no wonder to me that two people reading the same Bible and claiming to be led by the same holy spirit can't agree with each other.

As far as I know we are in agreement that you nor anyone else has freewill, I have barely read Drich's post on this but what little I have read we are in agreement. I'm not arguing for Drich and he's not arguing for me, we are both arguing that you do not have freewill as with God, which you have stipulated this is the freewill of this thread.

Decided to leave Mark 4:10-13 alone, did you?

Not at all, I've argued these verses before and to the best of my knowledge wasn't challenged on them. You would on the other hand, would probably use your child like tactics as with the other verse you brought into this conversation. I'm not wasting my time with you and that mentality, sorry that's just the way it is.

Use me for his absolute will? Like he used Dylan Roof for his absolute will in Charleston.  No thank you. Since I have a choice, I choose not to be used by that blood-thirsty reprobate in the sky.

Hold on, how did you determine that was God's ultimate will? Dylan Roof is a mental case that made his choice to kill those people because he's a hateful bigot who deserves to be punished to the absolute extent of the law, if I were on the jury and the death penalty was on the table I would vote for it.
That's not your choice, not completely, if or when God uses you it will happen and more than likely you want have any idea it ever happened. See what I was speaking of earlier, you are mad at something you believe doesn't exist, how is that in any way logical, to be mad at something you believe doesn't exist and I do not mean this to be degrading, but doesn't it speak to you needing to re-evaluate yourself.

Probably want get back here before Monday, have a great weekend, talk to you soon.

GC