(July 11, 2015 at 4:18 am)robvalue Wrote: Let me see if I can construct a generic apologetics argument:
2) God can do what he wants because no one can stop him.
3) God gets to say what is and isn't "good", because no on can stop him doing so.
4) God says everything he does is good, so it is. Because he says so.
5) God isn't constrained by logic or arguments, because he invented those in the first place. So if you think you've found a way to show that anything about god or his actions are incoherent, contradictory or impossible, you're wrong and he is right.
6) Everything is evidence that god exists. My god, that is.
So we can see by point 6 that god does exist, and by point 5 there can be freewill in heaven without contradicting sin and free will being intertwined.
Whoops, did I miss out the first part of the argument? Yes, apologists always miss out this point. Here it is:
1) I presume to speak for god.
Well, I'll stop you right there. You can presume whatever you want. If god wants to say something, let him say it. You'd think of all people he wouldn't have trouble communicating. Is he locked in a soundproof dungeon?
What scares me the most is that people like this, people like Brich for example, are of the same mindset as the most extreme supporters of Islam. And we know where that brings us to.
**Crickets** -- God