(July 11, 2015 at 10:46 am)Jenny A Wrote:(July 11, 2015 at 1:05 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Why would they?
Because if they are still people after resurrection, they will still behave like people.
If heaven is without sin: either: (1) people are changed upon entering heaven so that they lack the capacity or the will to sin (a violation of free will and rather Stepford Wife like--ick); or (2) heaven itself must be designed in such a way as to prevent sin (a violation of free will rather Big Brother Like--ick); or (3) everything is so wonderful that no one will want to sin (really, really hard to imagine and calls into question why this world was ever created); or (4) god changes the rules so that nothing is a sin any longer (making the idea of morality completely arbitrary).
In the first two possibilities free will is the ultimate thing god must not deprive people of on earth and the thing he must deprive people of in heaven. Very puzzling that. In the third we have to wonder why this world was created at all since a much better one is possible (if it is indeed possible). In the fourth, morality is completely arbitrary calling into question any need for hell let alone Jesus' sacrifice.
What this puzzle says to me is that heaven is one more deeply flawed idea of christianity, right up there with the remission of sins by the sacrifice of a third party, and punishment for the sins of one's remote ancestors.
3.) Heaven will be so wonderful
In the book of the Revelation we are told that the smoke of the torment of those in hell will rise up before the lord forever. How wonderful a place can it be for anyone when everyone there will see god gloating over the torment of someone they knew? Will the people in Heaven have their compassion and empathy so removed that all they can think of is "Well, I'm glad I'm here. Fuck mom and too bad for my boss."
I'd rather be my own sin-capable self than to be changed into such a cold zombie.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
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I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.