(July 11, 2015 at 11:50 am)Randy Carson Wrote:First of all, you dodged dealing with what I said by directing me to go all the way back from post #1333 to post #127. You guys are so good at this. Remember, You're the evangelist here, not me. When you dodge my points you only prove that you have nothing compelling to say.(July 11, 2015 at 11:36 am)IATIA Wrote: So wanting to be as god and getting kicked out of heaven was good? Taking the earth women was good?
Your post is vague, but if you are referring to the fall of the angels then two points:
1. Note that God has given all rational beings that he made free will.
2. Angels are intellectually superior to humans and had the benefit of seeing the Beatific Vision of God prior to making their choice. Consequently, they only needed (and were given) one shot at their ultimate choice.
Second, if the angels were superior, how can we mere humans expect to do better than they did in resisting evil. They had one shot, you say so did god wait until after Satan rebelled to remove all the bad stuff from Heaven, so it will be a different place when humans get there?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.