(July 11, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:Yes, you are incorrect from an evangelical Christian point of view. There is no sin one has to commit to go to hell. But this is not the place to get into a discussion about the differences between Catholic and evangelical Christianity.(July 11, 2015 at 11:54 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: 3.) Heaven will be so wonderful
In the book of the Revelation we are told that the smoke of the torment of those in hell will rise up before the lord forever. How wonderful a place can it be for anyone when everyone there will see god gloating over the torment of someone they knew? Will the people in Heaven have their compassion and empathy so removed that all they can think of is "Well, I'm glad I'm here. Fuck mom and too bad for my boss."
I'd rather be my own sin-capable self than to be changed into such a cold zombie.
One solution for this apparent problem is that in heaven, people will have a complete picture of the horror of sin. Consequently, they will understand that those who rejected God - to such a great extent that they DESERVED hell - have been punished justly given the seriousness of the sins that they committed.
Additionally, it is thought that people CHOOSE hell rather than enduring the pain of being in the white-hot presence of a pure and holy God when they themselves are stained with sins. If so, then the people in heaven may simply understand that those in hell are there because they want to be.
I suspect that YOU have a problem with this because you don't think sin is really any big deal. Let me know if that's incorrect.
Most humans have neither the knowledge nor the power to be truly evil and only a psychopath would think that any human deserves eternal torment. so will Heaven be full of psychopaths?
The only thing anyone in Heaven would find horrible is the sight of god sadistically enjoying the torment of their loved ones and everyone in Heaven will know at least one person who didn't make it, not because they were particularly evil, but because no Christian could convince them to accept Jesus before they died. But you mean to tell us that god is going to convince those people that their mother or lover DESERVED hell, whatever the justification? What a god! And you want to convince me that I would flinch away from his purity because of MY sin?
You have more than enough rope to hang yourself so you want to hang god too, which is what you're doing.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.