(July 11, 2015 at 3:39 pm)Metis Wrote:Where is "here" for you? I'm talking about Baptist, word of faith and Calvinists. I'm sure none of them would admit to being "gleeful." but among themselves they talk about who's going to hell with such a tone of vindication and no compassion whatsoever. The Calvinists are really horrendous, believing that god handpicks those who will be saved.(July 11, 2015 at 1:55 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Oh, but it wasn't Catholics who told me god allows sin so we can have freewill. They were evangelical Christians who believed with relish that Catholics were going to fry when they die, just like the Catholics believed the same of them. If, as Randy says, god does this because he wants us to love him... well, somebody mentioned Stockholm in one of these threads.
Oh the Evangelicals are just as bad on that front, if not worse. I was thinking more about the Episcopalians, the Old Catholic Church, The Church of England, Euro Methodists (American Methodists are really different to the ones we have here). They do believe in hell but they don't seem to be as gleeful about the idea of anyone going there.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.