(July 11, 2015 at 4:02 pm)Cato Wrote: Anima,
Heterosexuality:
a : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward the opposite sex
b : of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between individuals of opposite sex
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heterosexual
Please explain what IVF has to do with sexual desire or intercourse.
BTW, the equivocation reply was in a direct quoted response from Ace.
(July 11, 2015 at 8:17 pm)Cato Wrote:(July 11, 2015 at 5:44 pm)Anima Wrote: Please note I said IVF is a hetero activity. Meaning it is heterogeneous as well as heterozygous. Now if we wish to argue heterosexual than the argument may simply state the teleological purpose of procreation is satisfied by means of heterosexual copulation meant to bring the ovum and the sperma together. Until recent times such was the only viable way to bring ovum and sperma together. As such it may be stated an act designed to bring ovum and sperma is of a heterosexual nature.
Are you seriously asking me to believe that in a discussion of homosexuality your intended use of the truncated prefix hetero was invoking heterogeneous or heterozygous? This comes off as intentional obfuscation.
The purpose of procreation is also satisfied via IVF so I don't think this teleological avenue will get you far. The last sentence is an absurd rationalization.
Indeed I do. You see the explanation in its entirety is as follows. In the billion years or so of di-hybrid procreation (be it internal or external fertilization) the act has required heterosexuality (meaning different sexes or as your definition provides "of or relating to" opposite sex) to provide the ovum and sperma that would lead to the heterogeneous combination of genetic material resulting in the heterozygous creation of numerous creatures of similar type but not simply clones of one another.
Furthermore at this present moment 99.9999999999999999% of the di-hybrid creatures that have been procreated and are currently being procreated on this planet at the present moment were created by heterosexuality providing the ovum and sperma leading to the heterogeneous combination of genetic material and the heterozygous creation of those creatures as similar but not mere clones of their parents.
This is known as a definitive correlation. Which is to say you may define one in terms of the other. Thus we may define the act of procreation as a heterosexual act leading to the combination of heterogeneous ovum and sperma resulting in a heterozygous creation of offspring.
You seem to want to limit heterosexuality to the act of sex (which I imagine the homosexual would not like to hear as I believe they feel homosexuality is more than just who they have sex with). By that argument if a heterosexual individual engages in "homosexual" sex than they are a homosexual and if a homosexual engages in heterosexual sex they are heterosexual (regardless of their self definition).
Also, as I already wrote, IVF is far from a ready replacement to natural heterosexual procreation. First, it is to be noted that IVF was developed as a treatment for heterosexual infertility and was not intended for homosexual use. Laws originally barred single and same sex individuals from utilizing IVF methods of fertilization and many countries still have those laws in place. Second, you act like anyone can get it any time any where. But the mere cost of $70k-$60k means it is not available to the majority of people for financial reasons. The required equipment for storage, preparation, and insemination are also extremely expensive and not readily available throughout the world. Finally, even with IVF one does not escape the reality that procreation is brought about by the heterosexual combination of genetic material and is thereby a heterosexual act to create heterogeneous combination leading to heterozygous offspring. Aka it is a hetero act!