(July 11, 2015 at 12:44 am)Godschild Wrote: We're talking about now not when you thought you were a Christian, 25 years you were playing a game and this is why I believe what I do about you, not trying to put you down here this is what I honestly believe. If you had confessed Jesus as your savior and Lord all those years ago He would have proved to you He was real. If after that you decided you didn't like what you had found, I could believe that and slightly understand what you did. I could even understand your anger at God. You however threw away God as one would trash, claiming He doesn't exist, so how is it you can say what you do about the God you claim doesn't exist, actually why do you say the things you do about something that doesn't exist. That would be like me getting mad at the pink unicorn and throwing a temper tantrum at the very thing I do not believe exists, for me it would be a stupid and foolish thing to do, even worse it would be a total waste of my time. I just can't believe you ever had a personal relationship with God, for if you had you could not in all honesty ever deny His existence, be mad at Him for some reason yes, but to deny something you had a personal relationship with would be crazy.
want get back here before Monday, have a great weekend, talk to you soon.
GC
Rhonda Wrote:GC, I have only been here for 3 months and are you going to tell me my whole life story because you know my motives that I had when you did not even know I was alive?
I haven't said anything about your whole life, you need to quit crying about things and learn to be honest about what I say. I told you that what I said was my personal opinion and nothing more or less. I'm really not interested in your past life other than your leaving God out of your life.
Rhonda Wrote: If you subscribe to the Once Saved Always Saved doctrine then that’s your belief but has nothing to do with me. I confessed Jesus as my lord and savior and the worse other Christians treated me the more tightly I clung to what I believed was my “personal relationship with god.”
I said nothing about nor alluded to once saved always saved, I see how you might have gotten that, my being a Southern Baptist and writing what I did about you not possibly being saved to start with. I don't think you read what I said carefully enough, then that may have been my fault. I do not believe in once saved always saved anymore, I just can't see where the Bible teaches this doctrine. I do not doubt you confessed Christ, I've seen and known others to have done the same thing and may still believe they are save, but more than likely they are as lost as last years Easter egg. The shame of it all could be they were not being taught any better, I've seen that also. Now that you have said you were treated badly by other Christians (I can't fathom why), if you don't mind sharing I would like to know so I can understand. Limited information on both sides keeps us from understanding each other, we both loose when this happens. I've had bad experiences with other Christians in the past and let it effect my walk with God, I did not give up on God though and not so long ago I've had experiences with Christians but didn't allow it to get between myself and God, I learned from the experiences.
Rhonda Wrote:I am not mad at god. How can I be mad at something that I no longer believe exist?
You could have fooled me, the way you write about Him would lead many to believe you were and, you haven't yet said you didn't get mad at God and leave Him. I see hatred for God all over this forum, people can deny this but, they can't hide it, it's to obvious. Most of the Christians who use to be here have told me the same thing and I bet the ones here would say the same, but I'll let them speak for themselves.
Rhonda Wrote:I’m not even mad at you because you are where I was (unless the truth is that you are the one who’s playing a game, pretending to be a believer when as god told the Israelites, his name is blasphemed because of you - Romans 2:24).
I'm glad to hear you're not mad at me, because I wasn't able to tell if you were or not. I don't know where you were and I'm sure you do not know where I'm at in a relationship with God. I doubt very seriously we could have been in the same place, I know for a fact that God is real and, He is who He says He is. That's why I said I do not believe (my opinion) you ever really knew God, how could you and walk away and say He does not exist. I believe that many people have been saved and then decided to leave God for their own reasons, but I believe most were babes in faith and never really come to allow God to prove Himself to them. This takes a lot of study, real desire and dedication to God which would include deep prayer and asking God in those prayers to bring one's self into that knowledge, the NT teaches this is possible when we desire this above other things. Hoe does one deny God's reality if one knew for sure He is real, I can't ever imagine how that's possible. To me that would be the same as one saying they never had a mother and father, in the physical sense. I'm not mad at you either I will always make a determined stand for what I know is the truth and reality of God, and in my zealous stand it may seem I'm mad.
Rhonda Wrote:The rest of your post is just obfuscation and artful dodging, as anyone who reads what I said and your replies can tell.
Not really, I think you just want to avoid the rest, why, because you've ignored things from me thus far in this thread, and I've answered everything you've posted. So how could I've dodged anything.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.