"Free Will" Belief/Disbelief Poll

[theVOID]

There is no flawed logic, you just don't have a clue what the issues are, which is entirely typical for you.

It is also typical of you obviously. This is why you get on my nerves. You think it is ok you to sprout off and say whatevr you like, but when someone else does it about you, they are the worst person in the your World.

You were the one who came out all guns blazing and declaring everyone else illogical mate, so either show that you know what you are talking about by actually pointing out flaws in the reasoning, or stop complaining when you get called out.

What do you think the necessary mechanism is for free will?

Evolution of the brain to a certain level of self awarness.

What is this level of self awareness? Do animals have free will too, or is this something that only evolved in us? Does it apply to elephants and apes that have a distinct sense of self?

Massive segments of information in the brain have to break causality and act according to some entirely different non-mechanism, so do you have any idea what that non-mechanism is? And how can you show that it exists?

Self-awareness. It exist because I understand that I am a self controlled sentient being, as most people do.

Nothing exists based on your understanding of it... And you accuse me of poor reasoning And how does something being aware of it's ego and some other functions make it's will acasual?

What creates this self awareness and how is it able to escape causality?

So, I do not think that free will is acuasal. It has causality and can be proven to exist. It is caused by the way a complex brain (be it human or otherwise) has evolved to understand the self. Why we understand is another topic.

Self awareness does not equate to free-will. If you don't think the brain can act in a way that is not caused then you are arguing against your own position. The outcome of a causal view of the brain is a causal view of will, and that type of will is not 'free' in the contra-causal sense, but at the most a from of compatiblism

I don't diagree with this, its called free will.

How is it free will? You haven't explained any of that. The idea i just described has been known for hundreds of years as the idea of caused will, which is not free.