Will Humans Have Freewill in Heaven?

[Godscreated]

Yes they are one and the same, it doesn't matter who discovered the hoax, it was taught as fact in schools for many years, so why should we trust those who would deceive our children to advance their idea of the world by deception.

GC

The entire point is that:

1. Science is about presenting the best possible answer to the evidence in front of us.
2. Science is, inherently, self-correcting.

Why wasn't that skull examined by other scientist and scrutinized before it made it into school books, why, because it push an agenda, if evolutionary scientist actually cared this thing would have never made it that far, where was the so called peer review. You all go nuts if a Christian makes a mistake and it's not immediately brought to light. How many people actually knew this skull was a fake, I do not know but I would bet more than most would want to admit.

Do some people try to deceive others?  Sure.  Science isn't fool proof.  No one here has ever claimed that.  The thing is, science, which is a process, naturally weeds out bad answers and/or evidence if done properly (meaning, that they actually follow the scientific method with honesty).  That such deceptions are caught are a testament to how the process works.

The same goes for Christianity there are a multitude of deceivers and they give reputable Christian churches and organizations a bad name with the secular world because you all want to lump all of Christianity into the worst parts you can find, even when Christians denounce these bad actions. Now you want me to treat you and the evolutionary science you believe in differently than you treat Christianity. Why? Why should I trust evolutionary science, the piltdown skull is just part of the deception, many others have been found out and these scientist are slapped on the hand and told you've been a bad boy. How do I know that they weren't told next time do a better job and don't get caught. Could it be that Christian scientist didn't find this deception because they are not allowed to examine these things, tell me I'm wrong.
The piltdown skull wasn't a bad answer, don't try and reduce this out right deception to something like a bad answer, bad answers are involved in test.

Want a more recent example?  Look at the guy who put forth that famous bogus study about vaccinations causing autism.  Because science is peer-reviewed, other scientists looked at his study.  Over time, it became clear that he either ran a poorly designed study, or cooked the books.  After a host of other scientists lambasted him for his study, he admitted it was a fraud.  Yeah, it took some time.  Science, again, is a process.  Refutations and corrections don't happen in the blink of an eye.  But, it was, ultimately, corrected.

I'm very aware of this, I'm also aware that parents are upset because it could have caused their children their lives, to many scientist want to make a name for themselves instead of helping humanity they bring harm. How many children died because this wasn't peer review before being made public, ultimately was this worth the life of even one child.

You're really overstating the case of deception.  The vast, vast majority of scientists are honest.  Science is based on honesty and openness.  The results are always up for peer review, which often means other scientists repeating the experiment.  Because the results are subjected to such rigorous review, the vast majority of scientists aren't going to attempt to lie or deceive.  And those that are foolish enough to try are caught.  Maybe not immediately, but they're still caught.

No, I'm not over stating the deception of the piltdown skull, it was a blatant deception to only bring notice to particular scientist and it wasn't reviewed correctly or it wouldn't have gotten by others. I know a scientist who's a Christians and he can't even get a peer review, how fair is that, he wants one so that his work can have a chance to be known, but no it want be looked at simply because it might refute some accepted science, this is not what I call good science, it's rigged for an agenda. Until secular science changes the way it operates I will always look at some of it with great doubt. I have no doubt that many scientist are honest, but when a scientist does bad, bad things do result, this is no way to operate. I have nothing against good science and fair science, science has brought us a long ways, especially in the medical field.

So, why should we trust them?  Because they're the best we have.

Sometimes the best is just not good enough, when ego is thrown into the mix it will taint the work and could cause great harm. This isn't like cheating at a card game, deceptions in science can cause great harm and worse. I actually like science, but for the most part I'm against space missions until we can feed the world and with the money spent on space exploration many children could have been feed and alive today, instead they are buried and mothers grieve the loss. With this said I still made sure to see the latest on the Pluto mission, I'm amazed at the amount of intelligence it took to pull this off, however I still can't help to think of all the starving children that money could have feed and how many mothers would not be grieving. It is the well to do that benifit from this type of science and the poor who suffer because of the same.
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