RE: A message to the Religious
July 19, 2015 at 4:17 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2015 at 4:19 pm by Dystopia.)
(July 19, 2015 at 11:12 am)Napoléon Wrote: You know, I totally get how some people are indoctrinated from birth with bullshit. I totally get that it's not straight forward for some people to figure out. Not everyone has access to the information. But what really grates on my tits is how certain people are so sure about their fucked up convictions that they look down on the people who don't buy into the bull. These same people command respect for their beliefs. These same people expect to be taken seriously. These same people come onto a forum like this, when they literally have access to all the information in the world at their fingertips, and choose to argue this bullshit with people who don't buy it when they could otherwise be enlightening themselves.
Now I know some people come here to 'hear about opposing viewpoints' and all this other hippie free loving shit too. But I don't buy how you can supposedly come onto a forum like this with an "open mind", read and be given access to all this information that literally puts your religion flat on its fucking arse, and still call yourself religious. There's some ulterior shit going on there.
I think some people are genuinely interested and in good faith - You can tell that by the way they argue - I mean, some innocent Christians who think you should love every person on earth (even atheists) come to atheist forums just to discuss the existence of god but they don't actually mean harm or to piss off people - I know some folks reach a point when there's basically no turning back - Just like I've reached a point when, if things stay the same (evidence-wise), I can't believe in any god even if I try to force myself into it, I think there's people who won't stop believing no matter what and we all know some of those. It's confusing to talk to them, but they just refuse to change their minds.
Then there's people who already know anti-theist arguments, know the fallacies in their arguments, and still come here to tell us about how we're angry at god and will burn in hell for all eternity. I can't stand that shit, it pisses me off. Most of my friends believe in some sort of spiritual power, and they're all great people, so obviously I don't think believing in god makes you a moron or retarded - But when you literally think there's talking snakes and flying horses (or pegasus, whatever) it's so bad I can't hold my breath - I give a discount to people who are ignorant and have gone trough so many hardships that they can't stop believing. There are people who have panic attacks about the thought of no afterlife and they can't stop believing - I wouldn't recommend becoming an atheist if that affects your psychological and mental health.
I have this friend who went trough some disturbing life events like seeing her mom being killed by her dad in the middle of a schizophrenic attack, and she thinks god has helped her trough life's challenges and that's why today she feels better - She's really sweet and always in good faith, but if someone tells her she's imagining things she has panic attacks and starts saying everyone wants her to suffer - It's really though to tell those kind of people "hey you're a moron and god doesn't exist".
I try not to judge people if they're ignorant or if they really need something to hold on to - I can't judge an oncologist who everyday sees children and adults dying horribly and needs to believe there's some sort of afterlife to feel better - I don't know how it's like witnessing people dying without being able to save them, specially innocent people who've harmed nobody, so I can't judge people. But if you have resources, means, a minimum of literacy and still refuse to analyse facts then I can't respect you. I can understand why some people think deism and pantheism is more desirable, but I don't get it why anyone would voluntarily choose Catholicism, Islam or Judaism as a lifestyle.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you