RE: Was Hitler objectively bad?
October 17, 2010 at 5:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2010 at 5:29 pm by theVOID.)
(October 17, 2010 at 12:58 am)ChromodynamicGirl Wrote: This isn't a problem with atheists, it's a problem with retards who believe in morality.
You are an error theorist I presume? Error theory is simply naive, Morality does exist, it's only a matter of whether or not morality is subjective or objective.
Certain definitions of morality are quite simply true, Desirism's definition of morality is a relational property, and relational properties do in fact exist, so in that instance morality is real and objective. Similarly for subjectivism, subjective views using moral language do exist, thus morality (as defined by subjectivists) exists, it is simply not a matter or moral propositions being true or false, rather morality becomes representational.
In either case, the moral intuition does point to some existent value.
This is why error theory is false, it is correct in assuming traditional definitions of morality are false, because Gods, intrinsic values, social contracts, impartial observers etc do not exist, but it is wrong in assuming that there are no alternatives.
Quote: What's more, your magical sky daddy existing wouldn't somehow make morality true; it would just mean there is a vindictive superman who will punish you if you do something he doesn't like.
That's typically how theistic morality is defined, If a God is the arbiter of morality the morality is whatever he judges it to be. It depends on how you define morality.
Quote:"I don't like the consequences this theory entails, ergo the theory must be wrong." Too bad the Universe doesn't exist to make you feel important.
Totally agree.
(October 17, 2010 at 12:05 am)ChromodynamicGirl Wrote: Your confusing superiority with misanthropy. Though, as it happens, I am also superior.
I am yet to see any evidence of that, so excuse my skepticism.
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