(July 20, 2015 at 2:40 pm)robvalue Wrote: This is just an assertion based on your imagination and awe. The argument from incredulity. You can't imagine how something without a will that isn't magic could be this "creator". You don't need to be able to imagine things for them to be true.
But kudos for stepping up to the challenge, I don't know if I'm going to get any other takers.
That was worded bad. What I'm stating is we know by the nature of physical things, that lifeless force, cannot bring something like time into being after it didn't exist. It's impossible. Irrational. And we know this.
If someone said "this dollar" creates my soul, you would ask him "do you believe it's a magical dollar? What's special about it?" You obviously know that he wouldn't be assuming a physical normal dollar can be creating your soul. And it's bad enough to believe in a magical dollar creating your soul, but it's beyond irrational to believe it has no magical power, no spirit, nothing, and it's creating his soul. The 2nd is a whole level of irrational higher then the former.
The same is true of a lifeless entity (physical thing) creating time.
