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More Kony Shit
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RE: More Kony Shit
(March 26, 2012 at 4:09 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Did we watch the same video? His entire point was that Kony 2012 is a government plot aimed at getting people to support war, so that the US can invade Iran.

I don't think that was his 'entire point'. Bit of a straw man here.

Like I said, I do agree he seemed a bit sensationalist and 'conspiracy theorist', but as I also said, he raised important points also.

Ones I think deserve some acknowledgement.

Quote:Not all military intervention is war.

Not all military intervention is needed.

Quote:They already are involved;

This was before the video even went viral. Correct?

Quote:they have deployed 100 troops already to help the Ugandan military. The point is, those troops need to stay there until the job is done, or increased if Kony starts to rebuild his army.

Okay, now I'm not against having these troops there to provide help and assistance (not actually to fight). And I'm not saying Kony should be able to get away with what he is/was doing. He's a war criminal no doubt about it. I'm not sitting here denying that. My problem is exactly what this video hopes to achieve. Is it simply raising awareness? Well if so, then you can definitely say it has done that. But why has it taken them so fucking long to get this message out? The thing that makes me annoyed about it all is that Kony isn't even supposed to be in Uganda anymore. Why was this not done 10 years ago when Kony was actually committing these atrocities, because I can tell you for a fact he's pretty inactive at the minute. Sure he could come back. But still, the damage has been done.

Quote:I'm not sure you fully understand what Kony 2012 is actually about...this was all covered in the Kony 2012 viral video.

Thanks for that lovely bit of patronisation. Believe me, I was just as ready as everyone else to throw my money away and buy myself an 'action kit' and all that.

[Image: youtube-social-activist.jpg]

Then I encountered news stories and videos and they just made me stop and think. So I look into it further, and turns out, I don't really find that giving these people this money is the best way to be helping. Especially seen as they only send 32% of the income they make to the people in Africa who need the help.

The one point I just want to make very clear, is that sending money to this organisation, is in my opinion a waste when there are hundreds of other charities who would benefit from it far more. You are simply paying for the people behind "invisible children" to have private jets to Africa and back.

Quote:Simple:

1) Video sheds light on injustice that most people are unaware of.
2) Millions of people watch video.
3) Millions of people are now aware of injustice, and demand something is done about it.
4) Government listens to will of people (rare, I know, but it happens) and does something.

Riiight. And the government wasn't already doing something before this? We've already established they sent troops to Uganda before the video went viral. What have they done since? I've not seen any mention from any politicians that they plan on hunting down Kony because they saw a Youtube video.

Quote:If you thought that the whole point of Kony 2012 is to "like" a video and then not do anything else, you probably didn't watch the video all the way through.

I'm sorry. I should of said, "getting people to like a video, and buy their action kits and put up posters and wear fancy bracelets". My bad.

Quote:It is all about action; making enough noise and getting enough people to learn about Kony and his crimes that the government will get off their ass and do something about it.

I have no problem with people taking action and doing something immensely powerful within social media to help other less fortunate people. I agree with the main point of the video. I just take issue with the way they intend to go about it. And I think a hell of a lot of people will be/already are suckered in to supporting a dodgy charity by a misleading video. An organisation which is described from Foreign Affairs to "manipulate facts for strategic purposes".

http://www.moneytrendsresearch.com/the-t...kony-2012/

Quote:Helping the international court try and arrest these people is a good idea in my opinion

It is in mine too. Let me set it straight, Kony is a cunt, and needs to be apprehended. This video absolutely succeeded in getting the message out. However I think it is you who is missing an important point of the Kony video. To pay for these 'action kits' and to support 'innocent children'. I am merely questioning these two things. Not because I'm an asshole who wants to be a killjoy. I just think it's important to be skeptical, because no one really knows where their money is going.

I don't think it's a bad thing to question without jumping on the bandwagon. Something I expect many here to agree with.
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Messages In This Thread
More Kony Shit - by theVOID - March 26, 2012 at 3:49 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 4:47 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by theVOID - March 26, 2012 at 5:59 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 7:02 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by theVOID - March 27, 2012 at 1:06 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 27, 2012 at 1:48 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 27, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 26, 2012 at 10:48 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by NoMoreFaith - March 26, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by NoMoreFaith - March 26, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 26, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 26, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 26, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 26, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by 5thHorseman - March 26, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 26, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 26, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by paintpooper - March 27, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by paintpooper - March 27, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 27, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by paintpooper - March 27, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by 5thHorseman - March 27, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Autumnlicious - March 27, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 27, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by theVOID - March 29, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Autumnlicious - March 27, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Atheist Anarchist - March 27, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tempus - March 27, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 27, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 28, 2012 at 10:44 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Cinjin - March 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - March 28, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Napoléon - March 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Shell B - March 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LukeMC - April 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - April 2, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by LukeMC - April 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tempus - April 3, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by LukeMC - April 3, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: More Kony Shit - by Tiberius - April 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: More Kony Shit - by SavageNerdz - April 3, 2012 at 10:34 am

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