(September 10, 2013 at 8:10 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Nothing could be temporally prior to creation, since time is part of creation. The first cause could only be logically prior to traditional cause-effect relationships.
Cause and effect is, by its very definition, a temporal concept. The cause must precede the effect, so by attempting to explain creation with a first cause, you are thereby ascribing that first cause a temporal position. If time does not exist, however, doing so is impossible and nonsensical.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell