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Direct Democracy?
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RE: Direct Democracy?
(May 22, 2015 at 9:30 am)Ben Davis Wrote:
(May 20, 2015 at 8:10 pm)francismjenkins Wrote:



Thoughts?

Things that Direct Democracy needs in order to be optimally effective (in no particular order):

1. A highly informed, involved and egalitarian electorate
2. A non-partisan system of government; preferably one where individuals, rather than committees, are voted in to roles
3. Representatives with scrupulously high ethical standards 
4. High levels of local executive power with centralised principles and governance
5. Rigorous and ruthlessly executed governance systems with lifetime consequences for transgressors

This list isn't exhaustive but compare it to your current political structure and you can work out how appropriate it would be to put DD in place. I'd suggest that if 1, 3 & 5 aren't there, there's no point at all: self-interest and corruption would all too quickly destabalise the system.

"representatives" would be contrary to direct democracy, although you could have a system of delegates (and in most DD systems, delegates are usually rotated in and out, they're not elected ... every citizen would have an obligation to be a delegate at some point, much like we have a jury duty obligation). 

But in a hybrid system, I suppose we could have some aspects of both representative and direct democracy (which may be the most functional of all the alternatives). 

There's many problems inherent in both representative and direct democracy, and to date, I'm not aware of any advanced society that has been able to find the perfect mix. So IMO I think we need experimentation (but it takes a lot of work and activism just to get the space and resources needed to experiment). 
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Direct Democracy? - by nihilistcat - May 20, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Minimalist - May 20, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by AFTT47 - May 20, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by jesus_wept - May 22, 2015 at 5:02 am
RE: Direct Democracy? - by abaris - May 22, 2015 at 7:07 am
RE: Direct Democracy? - by jesus_wept - May 23, 2015 at 4:28 am
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Saxmoof - May 20, 2015 at 9:19 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Pyrrho - May 20, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Saxmoof - May 20, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Pyrrho - May 20, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Saxmoof - May 20, 2015 at 10:20 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by bennyboy - May 20, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by nihilistcat - May 21, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Minimalist - May 21, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by nihilistcat - May 21, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Minimalist - May 21, 2015 at 3:53 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by abaris - May 21, 2015 at 5:20 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by nihilistcat - May 21, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 21, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by nihilistcat - May 21, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 22, 2015 at 4:53 am
RE: Direct Democracy? - by nihilistcat - May 22, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Ben Davis - May 22, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Direct Democracy? - by nihilistcat - May 22, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Ben Davis - May 26, 2015 at 7:37 am
RE: Direct Democracy? - by Brian37 - May 22, 2015 at 7:19 pm

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