(July 7, 2015 at 6:48 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:Everyone seems to be missing the point of the fairy tale. All beings, humans, angels, demons, Satan, etc., have free will until Judgment Day. According to the script Satan is incorrigible. Even though he's on speaking terms with God and Jesus he's bad to the bone and always takes the mean road. Now we know that in the Bible God is responsible for 99.999999% of the bad things but that's another story.(July 6, 2015 at 9:46 pm)KUSA Wrote: The devil was in heaven and told Yahweh to fuck off.
Good point, obviously the devil displayed free will, so I guess you have yet another contradiction in the bible. Either you have free will in heaven or god has everyone in a constant state of bliss, cant have both.
So throught the fairy tale Satan and his gang have free rein to do a few bad things, nothing really major from our point of view. He will eventually get tossed into the dungeon but will make parole. He actually tries to save humanity from the homicidal maniac Jesus but fails. He and his gang get tossed into the lake of fire and that's that for them.
Meanwhile humans shuffle along in this mudhole enduring all kinds of misfortunes. Then, whamo, it's Judgment Day and everyone has to show up in court. The problem is that the old heaven and old Earth no longer exist and the new Earth has a giant golden cube on it called New Jerusalem. It has twelve gates, one for each of the twelve tribes of Israel but none for the Gentiles. So how can Gentiles get into the Jewish city of New Jerusalem when there's no gate for them to pass through?
No things are looking bad for the Gentiles because they don't have a hevean or a golden cube to call their own. But the lake of fire is really bubbling and it's calling for more bodies. While Satan, the false prophet, and the beast will be tortured forever in the lake of fire the fairy tale hints at a second death for the Gentiles who end up there.
Now for the herd that makes it into the golden cube the fairy tale says that they will be changed in the blink of an eye. There are no marriages in heaven so forget about sex and families. But they will still be able to eat and drink water, which God doles out on rigid schedule. Of course they will have to sing God's praises 24/7/365 for eternity but they will escape the lake of fire.
Meantime, the muslims are banging away in paradise, drinking wine, and playing with cute boys. Figure that out.
The Mormon guys have become gods, each with his own private world and harem churning out babies like termites.
The Vikings are on an eternal binge in Valhalla. Their bar tag is going to be astromonical.
The American Indians and in their happy hunting grounds hunting big game with bows and arrows.
Someone somewhere is being reincarnated and bossing around his slaves.
Who has free will?