(October 7, 2015 at 11:45 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 7, 2015 at 11:37 pm)dyresand Wrote: fire enough and burning enough said it's not even scary. The fact is burning forever after awhile everyone would just get used to being tormented
so yeah it wouldn't matter. Go to heaven with "him" or keep my free will and stay in hell yeah i pick B if there is C meaning none of that id pick that as well.
You don't lose your free will if you go to heaven.
Given the choice between burning forever or living in peace forever, I think the sane person would choose the latter.
A choice between service to someone who is the moral equivalent of a rapist, demanding that I submit to him at pain of torture?
Yeah, I'll take the torture and refuse to serve such a wicked being as this God you describe.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.