(June 24, 2017 at 9:20 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: What proofs are you referring to? Would you like to discuss one or two specifically?
I'm referring to all of them. All variants of the cosmological argument, arguments from morality, fine-tuning of the universe, etc. Do you seriously think that all people who simply reject belief studied all of this and came to the conclusion that all of them are absurd ?
As a Muslim, I also consider that some aspects of the Qur'an are strong arguments, one of them is the fact that it is inimitable ( no human mind can make a similar literary achievement ). The Qur'an repeatedly challenges everyone who reads it to come up with his own impressive Arabic book talking about the universe and human life with comparable eloquence.
(June 24, 2017 at 9:20 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: My position is that you can't philosophize, argue, or debate a god(s) into existence. That only supports a belief.
Well, this means that you simply reject the assumptions upon which any argument of god's existence is made. Take the cosmological argument for example, since it is unsound according to you, you boldly reject the causality principle. When I think about every assumption that needs to be taken down/reconsidered to rationalize atheism, there's just too many of them.
(June 24, 2017 at 9:20 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Whose thinking should I trust if not my own?
You didn't answer my question, why should you trust your OWN thinking if your brain is simply the product of random changes of your genome during the process of evolution ?
Trusting my brain's judgment about complex philosophical problems -such as God's existence- without any reason is the same as allowing a monkey to perform a cardiac surgery in my chest, and then expect to survive ...
(June 24, 2017 at 9:20 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Welcome to the forum. Tell us more about yourself when you get a chance.
I will. Thank you for responding quickly