RE: Is atheism self-contradictory ?
June 24, 2017 at 11:04 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2017 at 11:10 pm by Parsim0ny.)
(June 24, 2017 at 10:11 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Surely an agnostic's claims are that they don't know if any proof has ever been given correctly about god.
I'm not asking you to trust my thinking, but my thinking is that I can't speak Arabic, I have no interest in learning Arabic and the quran translated to English doesn't sound special to me.
The problem that you're talking about is actually a problem that faces Muslim claims rather than agnostic claims.
Your claim is that you know the quran is perfect, that you know Muhammad was perfect and all the other prophets, yet you couldn't possibly know what is perfect unless you have perfect judgement which you don't.
The problem I'm talking about concerns agnostics as well, everybody seems to agree with me that we NEED to trust our brains and trust their ability to attain truth. What's the source of this trust ? Is it mere belief or hope ? What's your position on this ?
I firmly believe that without assuming that some absolute power created our mind, nothing can be said or done, nothing can be proved or refuted. Therefore the fact that I can demonstrate logical statements and discern between sound and unsound arguments is proof of this power's existence. Where am I mistaken ?
