Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 11, 2024, 10:12 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Atheism and monasticism?
#23
RE: Atheism and monasticism?
Monastic systems are, by design, supposed to collect food / clothing / $$$ from ordinary people (householders, in Buddhist terminology) so that a subclass of people can be exempted from having to earn a living in order to devote themselves to the pursuit of disciplined learning and transmission of esoteric knowledge. The motivation for a religion to have a monastic order is really not much different from why Christianity has seminaries that churn out pastors / priests. This is also a special class that doesn't have to earn a normal living.

I remember once that a pastor I sat under expressed frustration that people didn't spend more time in Bible study and prayer, to the detriment of their faith. I suggested to him that maybe he had gotten a little out of touch with the laity because he gets PAID to do little else day in and out, aside from writing a couple of sermons per week and visiting the sick as needed. It's easy but tone-deaf to tell people they should spend a minimum of one hour daily "in the Word". Most people work too many hours for too little $$, get too little rest, and have too many demands on their limited time (wife, kids) and frankly find watching TV more relaxing than a contrived devotional. Don't shoot me, I said, I'm just the messenger.

So ... if you want to be a "monk" you're going to have to convince a bunch of people to finance you. Atheism wouldn't do that because it has nothing to perpetuate. You can learn 100% of atheist dogma in like 15 seconds. Out and done.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Atheism and monasticism? - by ComradeMeow - August 4, 2017 at 7:02 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Succubus - August 4, 2017 at 10:05 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Astonished - August 4, 2017 at 10:50 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by ComradeMeow - August 4, 2017 at 10:56 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Astonished - August 4, 2017 at 10:57 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Rev. Rye - August 5, 2017 at 12:26 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by ComradeMeow - August 5, 2017 at 12:37 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Astonished - August 5, 2017 at 1:00 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by ComradeMeow - August 5, 2017 at 2:12 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Succubus - August 5, 2017 at 6:06 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Astonished - August 5, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by LastPoet - August 5, 2017 at 3:37 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by ComradeMeow - August 5, 2017 at 3:41 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by LastPoet - August 5, 2017 at 5:59 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Hammok Man - August 5, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Ivan Denisovich - August 5, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2017 at 12:03 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by chimp3 - August 5, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by ComradeMeow - August 5, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by chimp3 - August 5, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by brewer - August 5, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by ComradeMeow - August 5, 2017 at 3:09 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by mordant - August 5, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Alex K - August 5, 2017 at 7:03 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by mordant - August 5, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Alex K - August 5, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by ComradeMeow - August 6, 2017 at 12:32 am
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Rev. Rye - August 5, 2017 at 9:03 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by mordant - August 5, 2017 at 9:28 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Rev. Rye - August 5, 2017 at 10:28 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by Succubus - August 5, 2017 at 7:59 pm
RE: Atheism and monasticism? - by chimp3 - August 5, 2017 at 8:26 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Christian and Atheism Worldwide Demographics: Current Realities and Future Trends. Nishant Xavier 55 2803 July 9, 2023 at 6:07 am
Last Post: no one
  Atheism VS Christian Atheism? IanHulett 80 27346 June 13, 2017 at 11:09 am
Last Post: vorlon13
  Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True HiYou 49 12348 July 21, 2015 at 6:59 am
Last Post: KUSA
  Atheism, Scientific Atheism and Antitheism tantric 33 12576 January 18, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Last Post: helyott
  Strong/Gnostic Atheism and Weak/Agnostic Atheism Dystopia 26 12179 August 30, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Last Post: Dawsonite
  Debate share, young earth? atheism coverup? atheism gain? xr34p3rx 13 10532 March 16, 2014 at 11:30 am
Last Post: fr0d0
  Religion, Atheism, and Deism -and the middle ground. Mystic 6 3343 March 9, 2014 at 2:41 am
Last Post: rsb
  What proof and evidence is there for "atheism" to be accurate and correct? SavedByChrist94 42 21827 January 12, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Last Post: Aegrus
  A different definition of atheism. Atheism isn't simply lack of belief in god/s fr0d0 14 12061 August 1, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Last Post: Mister Agenda
  "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF? leo-rcc 69 38298 February 2, 2010 at 3:29 am
Last Post: tackattack



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)