(June 25, 2018 at 10:34 am)Drich Wrote: [quote='downbeatplumb' pid='1779796' dateline='1529737237']
I was.
(June 25, 2018 at 10:34 am)Drich Wrote: Atheism is not a condition or genetic attribute. atheism is a religious beliefs or rather the lack of one. we are not born atheist like were are not born christian because we must elect our religious beliefs. If you believe yourself to be an atheist at birth you are either a liar or delude yourself on who you are or what atheism is.
No it isn't. Atheism is not believing IN god. I didn't choose to not believe in god I just don't.
I have not believed in god since I was born so for me it was the default view. Never believed, never saw a reason to start.
It is you who does not seem to grasp what atheism is and its really rather pathetic.
(June 22, 2018 at 11:04 am)Drich Wrote: Either you become atheist because you do not have proof of God IE you test the waters pray for something nothing happens or you have absolute unquestionable knowledge/proof of God yet decide to not believe any way.
Those aren't the only options are they. What if I couldn't give two shits about the idea of god. Literally could not scare less. What then?
(June 25, 2018 at 10:34 am)Drich Wrote: Never believed in god, never saw a reason to start.
(June 25, 2018 at 10:34 am)Drich Wrote: defaults are still a choice, to choose to do nothing i still a choice.
Well I have read the bible. (stupid piece of shit that it was) and have been corresponding here with some theists who have all not managed to provide anything near proof that meets any level that is convincing so there's that.
(June 22, 2018 at 11:04 am)Drich Wrote: You people are so programmed to default to a f-ing snow flake position you don't even think how "you don't know me" messes with your "I'm a atheist" claim.
Pot kettle.
(June 22, 2018 at 11:04 am)Drich Wrote: You can't have it both ways either you have proof and don't believe in God or you tried to obtain proof and got no response.
Quote:That's not how it works.
Actually it is. if you had irrefutable proof of God "Atheism by defination would be impossible. therefore if you are atheist you lack proof.
I so I need to provide absolute proof for the non-existence of god or atheism is wrong.
That's not how things work is it fella.
You say a thing is real, I say no it isn't, it isn't then up to me to show the evidence for the not thing, you must show evidence for the thing.
And you have failed again and again and again at that.
So no shifting proof burdons please.
there you go old chap.
Quote:Let me explain do you believe in the existence of extra terrestrials?
(June 25, 2018 at 10:34 am)Drich Wrote: yes as NASA for life or the evidence of it on mars.
No they don't they have evidence that suggests there "may be" that is quite different from proof of life.
Quote:If you don't then according to your logic then you should have visited every planet in existence, and all the space in between and not found some.
(June 25, 2018 at 10:34 am)Drich Wrote: Not what I am saying at all. I am simply saying if you do not believe in ET life then you do not have proof to support your belief. If you do then you have irrefutable evidence.
Ok I'll type slowly as you seem to be hard of thinking.
I said I don't believe IN alien life because of insufficient evidence to support it.
However I did say that I thought it was likely.
I do not have to supply evidence against alien life not to believe it I just need to not have enough evidence to believe in it now.
Let me put it like this.
A person comes into your shop with a jar of pennies and says they have 1000 pennies in the jar, would you always believe them or would you count the pennies.
I'm a count the pennies knida guy.
Quote:Now I do not believe in the existence of extra terrestrials BUT I do think that it is quite likely they exist. The missing thing that would make me believe in them is EVIDENCE.
(June 25, 2018 at 10:34 am)Drich Wrote: we are saying the same thing dumb ass you are so use to taking the oppsite side you refuse to acknoweledge when we are saying the same thing.
I'm pretty sure you're saying the exact opposite you distended baboons rectum.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.