RE: Does anyone seriously believe that one day all religion will die?
December 10, 2010 at 4:29 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2010 at 4:30 pm by Welsh cake.)
(December 9, 2010 at 6:32 pm)ScienceIsTheOnlyLord Wrote: It's all very well believing there's no God, it's a highly rational outlook. But to then go on a mission, spending all your waking hours arguing God's non-existence, in an attempt to enlighten the world into your viewpoint, is daft.The majority of atheists aren't arguing the non-existence of deities, they are responding to theistic claims that are arguing for God's evidence-free existence; these same theists who are often in an attempt to enforce their audience to subscribe to their dogma without question, indoctrinate our young, sabotage people's ability to enquiry about reality, and stop others having a more rational outlook on life, which is not as daft as it is vindictive, presumptuous and controlling to the extreme.
Quote:Throughout all recorded human history, religion has played a part. Why would you then think that this will ever change?To respond to your rhetorical question with another – Why would you then think that this will never change?
Quote:Darwin taught us that we are animals like the rest. No other animal can change its nature through thought and effort, so then why us?I reject your statement utterly. You insult those of us who have changed themselves for the better. If that assertion of yours was remotely true I couldn't have possibly deconverted from Christianity even if I tried to. You mention Darwin, yet does the word EVOLUTION mean anything to you? Animals, like us, are constantly changing they don't stagnate; to us the difference from one generation to the next may currently be immeasurably small, it's not until you appreciate that life today is actually an unbroken chain going back millions and millions of years do you see the bigger picture.
Quote:Schopenhauer - surely the most realistic of all the philosophers - told as that 'we can do what we will, but we cannot will what we will'. Unlike Dawkins, he truly understood the message of Darwin.What are you talking about? Schopenhauer was a philosopher, him and several biologists published their work on evolution roughly three decades before Charles Darwin conducted his scientific investigations into the diversity of living organisms. Darwin is credited with acceptance of the theory. You could argue Arthur Schopenhauer was a forerunner of Darwin. Schopenhauer was *not* inspired or influenced by Darwin's work in any manner.
Quote:Religion has always been with us and always will. It is insane and ignorant of the realities of darwinism to try and change this. Tolerance and understanding of the failings of human logic (i.e. religion) is the wisest state of mind. Everything else is just pie-in-the-sky talk.Here's a thought experiment for you. You met several people belonging to a cult who announces to you their new religion demands that they sacrifice you to the giant frog god in the sun. Needless to say you'd be the first to accept that what they're doing/proposed in the name of that religion is wholly, ignorantly and abominably wrong - in light of this gross human misconduct I daresay you'd be the first to abandon any notion of tolerance and understanding of such mind states.
Accept. Tolerate. The world will never be united in a single philosophy. And thank god for that (figure of speech).
Any permissive attitude towards others ideas and beliefs is never unconditional or unlimited, it depends entirely on what those beliefs are, since they ultimately can and often will enforce people's actions sooner or later.
Quote:Does anyone really believe religion will one day die out? If not, give up trying to convert people, and begin trying to understand them.Sure, our religions die out when people either finally wake up and realise it's a steaming pile of fallacious made-up bullshit, or, more likely, when the human race goes extinct.