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Atheists and Cakes
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RE: Atheists and Cakes
(December 28, 2018 at 8:09 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(December 28, 2018 at 12:14 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: Heres a question for you:

Why do so many atheists  want to force Christian bakers to bake cakes for gay couples?
#1 Atheism has nothing to do with trying to stop discrimination. Being a decent person has.
#2 It is been tried to stop people from discriminating against others. Are you in favour or against discrimination?
#4 The baker is offering his service. Nobody forces him to bake cakes. But the is not allowed to discriminate while baking cakes. If he needs to discriminate while baking cakes, based on his religious beliefs, he better re-evaluate his beliefs.


(December 28, 2018 at 12:14 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: They don't approve of the lifestyle and deem it immoral. I fully believe that is their right.
#5a Being gay is not a lifestyle, its a biological condition, aquired by birth.
#5b1 Thinking that being gay is immoral is like thinking being taller than 6ft being immoral. By the way: i dont approve of your *taller than 6ft* lifestyle, and wont bake you any cakes. Hows that?
#5b2 Of course its anyobdys right to be stupid and think other people are immoral for how they were born..
#5b3 ...the bigger question is though, if the bigots who are discriminating are right (rather than being bigots being their right)
#5tl;dl: Its anyones right to be wrong and a bigot, but should we? I can shoot myself in the head with a .45, but should i?

(December 28, 2018 at 12:14 am)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: Why must a devout Christian have to bake a cake to celebrate something he or she does not believe in?
Please tell me.
#6 Its not the bakers business to judge on why anyone wants his cake. Noone asks him to believe or celebrate. Accordingly he is not supposed to force anyone else to follow the bakers beliefs. He is only asked to bake cakes, according to his offer to provide his service.
#5 Devout or not. Who gives a shit? Does being a devout bigot make someone a better bigot?

#2 So discriminate against the Christian baker and his or her right to self-determination?
#4 The baker has the right to believe as they choose.  Why should someone else's lifestyle dictate that? 
#5 Sometimes there are biological explanations, sometimes it is environmental and/or personal choice.
#5b1 False analogy.  Height is determined biologically and has nothing to do with morality.  Sexual choices can be immoral. 
#5b2 Same illogical conclusion as already stated.
#5b3 Who is the determining factor of who's a "bigot"?  Again, we all have the right to self-determination regardless of what demographic we fall under.
#5tl False analogy.  First part is presumptive, second part is consequential.
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Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 28, 2018 at 12:14 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 12:18 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 28, 2018 at 12:21 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 28, 2018 at 1:51 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 1:56 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Mr.Obvious - December 28, 2018 at 2:02 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 28, 2018 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by onlinebiker - December 28, 2018 at 2:51 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 28, 2018 at 4:31 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Gwaithmir - December 28, 2018 at 5:17 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Angrboda - December 28, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 6:43 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 6:55 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 7:00 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 7:04 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 7:13 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 7:22 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 7:36 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 7:51 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 10:04 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by adey67 - December 31, 2018 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 31, 2018 at 4:33 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 7:18 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 28, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 28, 2018 at 8:09 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 8:32 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 28, 2018 at 10:56 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 28, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Fake Messiah - December 28, 2018 at 11:51 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 12:02 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 28, 2018 at 12:45 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by LastPoet - December 28, 2018 at 1:33 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 28, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Rahn127 - December 28, 2018 at 8:18 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by brewer - December 28, 2018 at 8:26 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:07 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:26 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 9:32 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:34 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Mister Agenda - December 28, 2018 at 10:33 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 28, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by brewer - December 28, 2018 at 11:15 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Mister Agenda - December 28, 2018 at 11:05 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 11:41 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 28, 2018 at 12:04 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 28, 2018 at 12:49 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 6:08 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 29, 2018 at 2:38 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 30, 2018 at 12:21 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 30, 2018 at 1:55 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 2:23 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 30, 2018 at 7:07 am
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