RE: Philosophical Failures of Christian Apologetics, Part 11: The Holy Spirit
June 22, 2020 at 6:25 pm
(June 22, 2020 at 12:29 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:(June 22, 2020 at 10:11 am)Grandizer Wrote: I mean, fine, if you want to call WLC stupid for not agreeing with your moral stance on this matter, be my guest.
My moral stance? It's because I am more morally evolved than him so I don't see homosexuals as immoral.
So I see it in a way that I should be teaching him and not the other way around, especially when he defends slaughter of Canaanites and their children because they were debauched and sinful and therefore deserved to be slaughtered.
You can't teach him anything, lol. It's part of his theology and it would shock his fanbase if he said contrary to what they believe. He doesn't care what you and I think on the matter.
Quote:(June 22, 2020 at 10:11 am)Grandizer Wrote: Even if his arguments aren't reasonable, he does have a PhD in philosophy
Then he should know better. Try talking to some philosophy professors and see if they even know of him.
I haven't talked to any of them, but there are lot of them who know of him. Why does it bother you so much that he happens to be well-known and well-respected?
Quote:(June 22, 2020 at 10:11 am)Grandizer Wrote: He's not a poor thinker, he thinks very deeply about topics to do with metaphysics and such
That's the point of this topic that he isn't any different "thinker" than Ken Ham and other Christian clowns.
You're letting your bias cloud your judgement of him if you think he should be put in the same category as Ken Ham ...
Quote:(June 22, 2020 at 10:11 am)Grandizer Wrote: He may have said that it's not logic that brought him to the faith but he doesn't believe that his arguments aren't nevertheless logical.
But that's the thing, his arguments are not logical. Kalam cosmological argument has been debunked as illogical and all Craig does is that he insists he is right and ignores any arguments that he is wrong.
The point is that he thinks they're logical. And to be fair, it's not that simple to declare his arguments to be illogical. Sometimes atheists turn out to be misunderstanding the premises of this or that argument (like with the modal ontological argument) or hastily dismiss others. The general issue with his arguments is the lack of evidence and/or science to back some of the premises up, but as far as validity goes they tend to be logical. This is why atheists often fail when debating Christian apologists like WLC.