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RE: Let's be honest
May 15, 2023 at 3:27 pm
(May 15, 2023 at 3:16 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(May 15, 2023 at 2:47 pm)Kingpin Wrote: No just that science in and of itself does not lead one to a worldview one way or another.  Some are theists, others atheist, agnostic etc.  Science and theism don't compete unlike Stephen Hawking's view that one must choose between science and God.

Science contradicts much of the theist worldview - so much so that any god must hide in the gaps of our knowledge.

A scientist can be a theist one of two ways
  1. Massive cognitive dissonance
  2. Creating an unfalsifiable version of God.
The first is a form of insanity IMO, and unfalsifiable theories have no predictive value.  Well I guess the pragmatic value is psychological -- a hope of heaven, despite no evidence for it.

How do you see contradictions between science and a God?  I believe in a God of the whole show.
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Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 12, 2023 at 1:56 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 1:59 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 12, 2023 at 2:09 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by arewethereyet - May 12, 2023 at 2:02 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 12, 2023 at 2:11 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 2:22 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 12, 2023 at 2:33 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by zebo-the-fat - May 12, 2023 at 2:23 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 2:34 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 3:28 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Angrboda - May 12, 2023 at 3:38 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Gwaithmir - May 12, 2023 at 5:55 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 3:40 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The End of Atheism - May 12, 2023 at 5:54 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Angrboda - May 12, 2023 at 6:14 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 6:17 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 6:54 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Anomalocaris - May 12, 2023 at 7:32 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 12, 2023 at 7:35 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by A. Secular Human - May 17, 2023 at 5:43 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Neo-Scholastic - May 12, 2023 at 8:41 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Anomalocaris - May 13, 2023 at 1:23 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 16, 2023 at 8:47 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Neo-Scholastic - May 16, 2023 at 9:32 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 12, 2023 at 8:43 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Neo-Scholastic - May 12, 2023 at 8:58 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Anomalocaris - May 13, 2023 at 1:24 am
RE: Let's be honest - by The Architect Of Fate - May 12, 2023 at 10:38 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Valkyrie - May 12, 2023 at 10:47 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by arewethereyet - May 13, 2023 at 10:42 am
RE: Let's be honest - by The Architect Of Fate - May 13, 2023 at 10:47 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Fake Messiah - May 13, 2023 at 1:01 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Belacqua - May 13, 2023 at 1:39 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Astreja - May 13, 2023 at 2:19 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Anomalocaris - May 13, 2023 at 3:05 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Angrboda - May 13, 2023 at 10:54 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Thumpalumpacus - May 13, 2023 at 12:27 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 9:08 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Thumpalumpacus - May 15, 2023 at 10:02 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Deesse23 - May 16, 2023 at 2:00 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 15, 2023 at 9:49 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 9:54 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2023 at 10:35 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2023 at 10:31 am
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 15, 2023 at 10:40 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Anomalocaris - May 15, 2023 at 11:08 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Angrboda - May 15, 2023 at 11:08 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 1:50 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Simon Moon - May 15, 2023 at 2:20 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Angrboda - May 15, 2023 at 2:24 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 2:47 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by HappySkeptic - May 15, 2023 at 3:16 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 3:27 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by HappySkeptic - May 15, 2023 at 3:39 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 3:46 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by HappySkeptic - May 15, 2023 at 3:53 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Astreja - May 15, 2023 at 11:28 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 16, 2023 at 12:16 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Simon Moon - May 16, 2023 at 4:07 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Belacqua - May 16, 2023 at 5:22 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by HappySkeptic - May 16, 2023 at 6:01 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Belacqua - May 16, 2023 at 6:52 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Neo-Scholastic - May 16, 2023 at 9:55 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by emjay - May 17, 2023 at 6:40 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Deesse23 - May 17, 2023 at 8:14 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Belacqua - May 17, 2023 at 9:34 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Mister Agenda - May 17, 2023 at 11:35 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Astreja - May 16, 2023 at 6:19 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Deesse23 - May 16, 2023 at 12:57 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Architect Of Fate - May 16, 2023 at 1:42 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by GUBU - May 21, 2023 at 5:39 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2023 at 11:15 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 1:33 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by arewethereyet - May 15, 2023 at 11:20 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Anomalocaris - May 15, 2023 at 11:33 am
RE: Let's be honest - by pocaracas - May 15, 2023 at 11:52 am
RE: Let's be honest - by HappySkeptic - May 15, 2023 at 12:09 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Simon Moon - May 15, 2023 at 12:45 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Neo-Scholastic - May 15, 2023 at 1:49 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by emjay - May 15, 2023 at 4:05 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Neo-Scholastic - May 15, 2023 at 10:02 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by emjay - May 16, 2023 at 11:09 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Mister Agenda - May 17, 2023 at 11:14 am
RE: Let's be honest - by no one - May 15, 2023 at 2:10 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 2:14 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by no one - May 15, 2023 at 2:20 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Anomalocaris - May 15, 2023 at 2:36 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 2:45 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 15, 2023 at 2:51 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 15, 2023 at 3:09 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 15, 2023 at 6:06 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Kingpin - May 16, 2023 at 12:11 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 15, 2023 at 11:18 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by no one - May 16, 2023 at 1:34 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by brewer - May 16, 2023 at 2:12 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 16, 2023 at 2:44 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Architect Of Fate - May 16, 2023 at 3:05 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 16, 2023 at 3:12 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Architect Of Fate - May 16, 2023 at 3:25 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Angrboda - May 16, 2023 at 4:18 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Anomalocaris - May 16, 2023 at 5:24 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 16, 2023 at 10:06 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Peebothuhlu - May 17, 2023 at 2:04 am
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 17, 2023 at 10:58 am
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 17, 2023 at 2:10 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Paleophyte - May 17, 2023 at 8:43 pm
RE: Let's be honest - by Carl Hickey - May 20, 2023 at 11:18 am
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2023 at 11:30 am
RE: Let's be honest - by Carl Hickey - May 20, 2023 at 11:46 am
RE: Let's be honest - by The Grand Nudger - May 20, 2023 at 12:00 pm

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