(May 2, 2012 at 1:18 am)Shell B Wrote: How is the big picture more important than the details? That is so absurd. The big picture is made up of the details. Those unwilling to "parse sentences" are, to my mind, those unwilling to actually sort through the facts. It is easy to have a preconceived notion and a preference for the outcome. It is, again to my mind, very uncool to make wide-sweeping claims based on these notions and preferences and then refuse to acknowledge the details that really make up the entire scenario.
"Hey, who cares if the details don't match up? The governments is mean! That's the big picture and I'm sticking to it." Fuck that.
just for clarification. the reason i said i wasn't willing to take our discussion any further into "parsing sentences" is for a few reasons. first, i'm no scientist and from what you said shell, you aren't either. however, we both have had our experiences dealing with metals in different capacities. i won't front like i know without a doubt what happens with metals when heated in any if not many situations. i don't know so much about the make-up of the steel used, the asbestos insulation, hell, even the size and pressure of waterpipes. so for that reason, i felt it was an exchange without much merit and decided to opt out. one thing that leads me to believe the building "could've" come down on it's own though, is the fact that the floors were constructed with truss systems, to keep the building lighter. that makes succumbing to heat from a fire, much more believable.
another reason i left it was because of the thing i mentioned about the bigger picture. my contention isn't based on the buildings falling as the sole reason why i question what happened that day. so, if i didn't get that across clearly, then i just didn't. so to me, i made no wide-sweeping claims to defend, i asked some broad questions and people chimed in however they saw fit. some constructive, some otherwise.
they can land a rover on mars, yet they still have to stick a human finger up my ass to do a prostate exam?! - ricky gervais