What Heaven is Like

[Mister Agenda]

[quote='Mister Agenda' pid='298631' dateline='1339515843']
How do you make out that 'Do what I say or I won't let you stay dead' is not also a non-choice?

? Nobody "stays dead" so I'm unsure what you are referring to.

Um, that's exactly what I'm referring to. If true, permanent death isn't an option, clearly God doesn't have a problem with restricting our choices. Your point was that 'do what I say or I'll end your existence' isn't consistent with free will. My point is that excluding permanent death from the choices is also not consistent with free will. It's basically saying that no matter what, you have to play the game, no one can quit.

I have read some of her posts. I am just saying that it's not representative of the bulk of Christianity.

What you actually said is that your view represents the view of the majority of Christians here. GC is here, too.

lol he is the one who started complaining that Christians "can't even agree with each other".

If you told me the Karfnugen sect isn't composed of Christians because they deny the divinity of Jesus, reject all his miracles, and think he gave spectacularly bad advice; I'd agree they don't fit the definition of Christian. I wouldn't keep bringing up the fact that Karfnugens believe they are Christians as examples of Christians who think Jesus was a dumbass.

Words are defined by how they are used, so if this trend at all continues, I wonder what the word "atheist" will mean in 10 or so years.

Current trends suggest it will mean 'someone who doesn't believe in God, someone who is not a theist'.