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Why ontological arguments are illogical
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RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical
(August 7, 2012 at 11:57 am)CliveStaples Wrote: The point was that an invalid argument can nevertheless have a true conclusion. Which was what I said.

Except that nobody claimed it couldn't. Reread the post you responded to.




Quote:Not "as if to make a point". To make the point that whether an argument's conclusion is true does not depend on whether the argument is valid, or whether the premises are true.

But can that be guaranteed? Can it be said to be true? If you made a comment with regards to these two statements you would have been responding to the comments you quoted. Hmn, whats the word for arguing against an opponent by way of arguing against a statement or claim which your opponent did not make..oh, the name escapes me....just can't put my finger on it....... Pro-tip, when you decide to correct a person on their use or assessment of logic, try not to fuck up the process -in the process.

Would you care to take another crack at why the statements you responded to aren't true?
(i just like to watch you argue against reason -with "reason"-..lol)
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Why ontological arguments are illogical - by liam - August 2, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Reforged - August 2, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by liam - August 2, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Reforged - August 2, 2012 at 10:23 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Rev. Rye - August 2, 2012 at 8:00 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Cato - August 2, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by liam - August 2, 2012 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Reforged - August 2, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 3, 2012 at 5:18 am
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 3, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 7, 2012 at 4:24 am
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Tempus - August 2, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Tempus - August 3, 2012 at 3:50 am
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by padraic - August 3, 2012 at 9:07 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 9, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 9, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 9, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 9, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Reforged - August 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Reforged - August 9, 2012 at 10:00 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Reforged - August 9, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by genkaus - August 9, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by pgrimes15 - August 14, 2012 at 6:14 am
RE: Why ontological arguments are illogical - by Angrboda - August 14, 2012 at 8:06 pm

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