Well, I don't really care about his attempt to define a neo-atheistic movement and am really only concerned with the meat and potatoes of the argument that the thread title implies. I'll let the chips fall where they may, and if the conversation goes nowhere, I will seriously consider starting a new thread. If the thread needs to be split, I will perform that modly miracle for you peasants free of charge.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell