RE: Meliorism - The rise of neo-atheism and the fall of reason
April 21, 2013 at 8:07 pm
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2013 at 8:19 pm by ManMachine.)
(April 19, 2013 at 1:20 pm)Strongbad Wrote:(April 19, 2013 at 2:48 am)ManMachine Wrote: It helps if you read what's written. I am saying the absence of belief in a deity is characteristic of atheism, I also very clarly said,
"... with a variety of opinions, ideologies and philosophies ..."
I don't understand why you would pick a phrase in isolation then proceed to re-say what I've already said to point out it needs saying?
Utterly pointless.
It helps if you read what you wrote:
Quote:As for being 'part of a group', being an atheist is not a social choice for me it's a personal assertion that there is no god(s). As far as I'm concerned there is no 'group' just individuals with a variety of opinions, ideologies and philosophies who agree on one point, that there are no deities.
Bolding mine. Atheists do not agree that there are no deities. Atheists do not believe the claims made by theists that deities exist. You'd understand the distinction if you were an atheist, and not a religious apologist. It doesn't bother me though, poe, you will either come clean or otherwise be "outed" sooner or later.
What is a 'poe'?
If deities do not exist then by implication there are none.
Did I miss the school trip to the stupid factory where they gave out free samples?
MM
(April 20, 2013 at 1:23 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Is there a "Sale" on some where for Poes/ Trolls?
We seem to be getting quite a few new members of questionable integrity lately.
Stop pointlessly attacking me and talk about the substance of my debate.
This paranoid shit is really boring and I wish the mods would do something about it because it wrecks the thread.
MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
