RE: The Case for Atheism
May 10, 2013 at 4:02 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2013 at 4:11 pm by The Reality Salesman01.)
(May 8, 2013 at 11:43 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: Lets look at it another way. Suppose we had never seen a computer before and we stumbled across one....stop. Keep in mind, at this point we have knowledge of people, and their ability to make stuff. Our knowledge and experience of human creativity is going to lead us to a very logical inductive inference, but go on...
(May 8, 2013 at 11:43 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: Which explanation for its existence would be more or less miraculous (or magical)Whoa...why did we jump to magic? Aren't we people in this thought experiment? Don't we have an understanding of our own capabilities in this thought experiment? Why are we invoking magic?
(May 8, 2013 at 11:43 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: that it was created intentionally by a more complex and intelligent designer ?You mean...like, other than us? Why is this not sufficient? The object in question can be examined, right? We are smart enough to understand this object, right? Even if only one part at a time?
(May 8, 2013 at 11:43 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: or that mindless forces without plan or intent to create such a device stumbled into making one by some process of time and chance?Why would mindless forces even be a suggested theory? What happened to us? Did we lose our ability to think in this thought experiment?
Do you have good reason to rule us out? COMPLEX=GOD? It's a good thing our forefathers didn't think that way. Do you understand quantum physics? Do you understand abiotic synthesis? Do you understand evolution? What evidence do you have that complex things pop into existance from A)NOTHING?, and B) WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE FOR THIS "NOTHING"? Plus, EVERYTHING can be shown to be possible products of a LONG...SLOW...process of simple things turning into more complex things...
So either, magic made the computer and put it there, or mindless forces just popped it into existance with no possibility to understand it? These sound like different versions of the same story.This is a false-FALSE dillemma...
Perhaps there is an underlying process behind this computer that can be understood and replicated. Maybe if we don't just chalk it up as a product of a magician, we might be able to make it ourselves, and through that, unlock answers to more questions that magical explanations bring to a hault? You think?...maybe?
