(May 19, 2013 at 11:37 am)Drew_2013 Wrote: Atheism is a single position, a disbelief in the existence of gods. Not a belief that there are no gods Does that sentence make sense to you? That would be like saying I disbeileve in the existence of football, not a belief there is no football.
Yes, it makes perfect sense. I don't believe in your god, someone else's god, anyone's god. Does that mean I'm saying there aren't any gods? No, it doesn't. I'm waiting, expectantly, for you to provide some fucking proof that actually maps to reality. So far, all the rationalizations you've provided have been arguments from ignorance, and your discourse thus far is only proving that your ignorance is staggering, so somehow I get the feeling your inability to grasp the atheist position comes down to that, and not any incoherence on the part of the position itself.
Quote:You're mistaken, atheists may not have explanations for how the universe came about or how life came about or why the universe has laws of physics that allow our existence, but they do claim that however it came about it did so without the benefit of a creator or designer or God. The fact they don't have any counter claim or explanation how such came about only underscores how weak the case for atheism is. Its so pathetic that while you claim to be an atheist, even you don't deny God exists...you just lack that belief, right?
Alright, listen up, shitheel: YOU DO NOT GET TO TELL ME WHAT MY POSITION IS.
There! Fucking A! Have I said it fucking emphatically enough yet, Drew? Christ, it's like talking to a brick wall. Do you not understand the difference between a god and a creator? Do I believe in a god- say, the christian god, or a Norse god- or any conception of god that any religious organization has put forward to date? No, I don't, and am henceforth an atheist. Do I believe it's impossible that a conscious entity- a creator- had some hand in the development of the universe? No, I fucking well do not, and therefore I am not making the claim you think I am, so do me a favor and fuck right off with your arrogant misrepresentations of the atheist position.
In fact, could you do me a favor and stop acting like a slimy fuck in general? Not having a position on something when there's no evidence to suggest one isn't pathetic, it's honest, moron. It's little shits like you who feel like they're the smart ones just because they've made up a position that are pathetic; congrats Drew, you told a story you happen to believe, I guess it must be true just because you think it is, huh? If yes, you're a dick. If no, then what the fuck is so great about holding a position without evidence?
Quote:I think atheism means the following...
Didn't I just say that what you think atheism means is a useless non-starter? Do you have a reading problem?
Quote:a·the·ism
[ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2.
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Number two, please.
Quote:It means that whatever the explanation for the existence of the universe and life is...it wasn't created by a transcendent being known as God. The fact atheists don't seem to believe in any naturalistic (non-god) explanation for the existence of the universe and life only underscores how pathetically weak their case against the existence of God is. No wonder even you as an atheist are unwilling to deny God exists.
So if I don't believe in one thing, I must believe in the exact opposite? I don't believe my house is on fire, so therefore my house is made of ice?
Tell me this, since you seem to think not having an explanation is so pathetic: why are you so desperate to have an answer? Why does the phrase "I don't know" repulse you so much that you're willing to hold an answer- any answer- no matter what, even if it's most likely wrong, just to avoid having to admit ignorance? Are you that afraid of having to do the legwork toward finding the real answer? Is the shit you make up really that comforting?
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