The Case for Atheism

[AnaMejiaP]

Let’s presume for the sake of argument that The Bible was to be true; then its claim of being inspired by a divine being. I think a divine being capable of talking to people, sending fire from heaven, having animals speak and having Jonah swallowed by a fish, and other crazy things wouldn’t be too far-fetched. Can you give me the verses that talk about Dragons and Cockatrice?

Yes, if you accept that a magic deity exists, you can explain anything with magic. Circular logic much?

Isaiah 34:13 mentions dragons in Babylon

Isaiah 11:8 - "And the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den." A cockatrice is a serpent, hatched from a cock's egg, that can kill with a glance. They are rare nowadays.

Jeremiah 39:33- Jeremiah predicts that humans will never again live in Hazor (false), but will be replaced by dragons. But people still live there and dragons have never been seen.

Jeremiah 59:37 - "Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant. They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as lions' whelps."

Exegesis just as hermeneutics have given us with other documents; like Septuagint to help us understand the Bible and its history correctly or closely. Yes, I agree some passages in the Bible are to be taken not literally.

You have a great ability to miss the point.

Yeah, go for it.

According to Exodus 1:5 the Israelite population was 70. In only 400 years, there were at least a couple of million (600,000 adult males, not counting women and children ( Exodus 1:45-46, 25:51). A population increase of 70 to a couple of million in 400 years is an impossibility. You know that, right?

40 years in the desert for a couple of million people, animals, carts, encampments, etc would have left archeological EVIDENCE (there's that 'E' word again). There is none. Archeologists are able to find remnants of much smaller populations from longer ago than the Exodus story supposedly took place in harsher conditions, yet not a shred of evidence for the Biblical story.

According to 1 Chronicles, David had an army of 1,100,000 from Israel and another 470,000 from Judah. There was not near the population to have armies this size in an area that was pretty much just tribes.

in Joshua 1:6, Joshua says that those who try to rebuild Jericho will be accursed by God, and will have to sacrifice both their oldest and their youngest sons in its construction. But Jericho still exists today, and is often considered to be the world's oldest, continuously occupied city.

Oh yeah, there is not a shred of archeological evidence that Jews ever lived in Egypt, let alone were enslaved there.

Quote:The prophecy in the Bible were even true. Such The Book of Daniel prophesied the coming of Pedo-Persia, Greek, The Roman Empire, Alexander The Great and other military battles. There was a prophesy that Jerusalem was going to be rebuilt after the Babylonians destroyed it years earlier. Which was fulfilled in 445 BC a full century AFTER Daniel had prophesied it was going to happen (Daniel 9). There are other hundreds of prophesies that were fulfilled. How can that happen from supposed men writing The Bible without any divine help?

This has already been refuted.

I know what the Jewish traditionalist believe in the prophetic of Daniel, though in fact not all. Daniel though is not the only book in the bible that holds prophetic accounts.

i wasn't only speaking of Daniel 'prophecy'.

Our Bible that we hold today is copies of the Original copies (which they do exist) please state your claim where they don’t? The copies that we hold are not perfect. Like you said they do have copy errors, misspelled words, and minor changes such as a better interpretation of the Greek word. Even though there are errors from years of copies, the Bible is still very close to its originals. Especially the amount of copies we have possession accounts more than any literature copies in history, making it so reliable.

Wrong.

The oldest known piece of the NT is a credit card size fragment of Mark from about 125 CE. There is nothing older. The originals do not exist.

The OT wasn't written for centuries after the events supposedly occurred. It wasn't written until 1200 BCE and 900 BCE.

You act as if I don't know the history of my religion? Hmmm...I think I already stated that I do but funny comment.

It seems that you don't/

You have made a point. Thank you.