(May 29, 2014 at 9:43 pm)theist101 Wrote:(May 8, 2013 at 11:39 am)Baalzebutt Wrote: Here is the single most important, indisputable fact in this argument.
You are completely unable to show me any physical evidence of your god.
Argument over.
But... how else did the world begin?
Nobody knows for sure. But I personally can say that the traditional God is logically impossible.
If God cannot do what's logically impossible, then he can't timelessly create anything. For to create requires the existence of time beforehand. If time has always been, and there was never a beginning to it, then this defies the theistic counterpoint against an infinite past.
So did God timelessly create the universe? If so, that would go against logic. And if such a being can defy logic, then there would be no point in using logical/philosophical arguments to demonstrate his existence. And we would then need physical evidence to demonstrate the existence of such a logically impossible being (if it's even possible).
On the other hand, if God did not timelessly create the universe, then there was an infinite past. But if there was an infinite past, what's the use for God?